Odd situation with KK vs Donkish minraiser
 

Turn and River felt botched. Villain is an unknown. He minraised KJ in the last orbit. Bet 1/6 of the pot with his gutshot on the turn and pushed when he hit on the river. I assume he's not very good judging by bet sizing and he's only on one of my tables.

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MP ($248.40)
CO ($163.65)
Button ($432.80)
SB ($404)
Hero ($404)
UTG ($660.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $6.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, CO folds, Button calls $32.

Flop: ($88) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, Button calls $65.

Turn: ($218) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $165</font>, Button calls $165.

River: ($548) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $140</font>, Hero calls.

Re: Odd situation with KK vs Donkish minraiser
 

Push the river.

It's a re-raised pot, so tons of pocket pairs are in his range, and I think he can call with a lot of them, getting 3:1, plus, I think he raises earlier with a full house or a T.

Rest of the hand looks perfect, IMO.

Re: Odd situation with KK vs Donkish minraiser
 

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Push the river.

It's a re-raised pot, so tons of pocket pairs are in his range, and I think he can call with a lot of them, getting 3:1, plus, I think he raises earlier with a full house or a T.

Rest of the hand looks perfect, IMO.

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you think he's good on the river? i guess pot odds and his idiocy are enough to call but it really looks like he hit the flush

Re: Odd situation with KK vs Donkish minraiser
 

FWIW: interesting that he pushed river in prior hand w/nuts but here it looks like he's left himself like 40ish?

Gotta imagine he has a monster, boat or flush. i'd think most PPs would check river unless he's using them as a bluff. also, since there isn't much money behind, there was really no need for him to raise earlier with a full house or even with trip tens since FD unlikely for you and he can just bet 1/2 pot on river for the rest.

Re: Odd situation with KK vs Donkish minraiser
 

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How do you think he plays JJ/99/88? Worse?

QQ might push earlier, but could be there too. Moreso for KK/AA.

Pot is huge and I think he'll make a lot of crying calls.

Plus, if we check, a ton of these probably check right back.

If we check, I think we should probably be check/folding, and that's just sick.

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you think he's good on the river? i

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How do you think he plays JJ/99/88? Worse?

Pot is huge and I think he'll make a lot of crying calls.

Plus, if we check, a ton of these probably check right back.

If we check, I think we should probably be check/folding, and that's just sick.

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no no sorry, i like a shove, i just don't know if he's good once he checks. but looks like we're in agreement

Re: Odd situation with KK vs Donkish minraiser
 

There are more flush draws and tens then pocket pairs. Why would the river bet be +EV?

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There are more flush draws and tens then pocket pairs. Why would the river bet be +EV?

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he probably doesn't have a ten