10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

He's pretty short, and I'm not realy concerned with guy in BB. Do I just repot here and deal with it? I'm pretty new to PLO still and not sure of my Equity vs a decent AA hand,which it's pretty apparent the type of hand he has. (any recommendations other than Pokerstove or twodimes for that kinda thing, btw?)


$10/$20 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 23:01:48 ET - 2007/11/06
Seat 1: mullaghorn ($177.50)
Seat 2: SingaporeFish ($0), is sitting out
Seat 3: Daliman ($1,677)
Seat 4: sopwith ($6,460.65)
Seat 5: John Cernuto ($598)
Seat 6: IbMcButterpants ($1,288)
IbMcButterpants posts the small blind of $10
mullaghorn posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Daliman [Qd Kd Kc Qc]
Daliman has 15 seconds left to act
Daliman raises to $70
sopwith folds
John Cernuto raises to $160
IbMcButterpants folds
mullaghorn raises to $177.50, and is all in
Daliman???

Re: 10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

Flat call and see a flop. If he has AAxx hes not folding to a reraise. No need to shove more money in now. This is a really good hand but if hes not folding to a reraise then we're better off taking a look at a flop and then making a decision.

Re: 10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

http://www.propokertools.com/simulat...tionEditor.jsp

Simply given that you've got so much [censored] in trouble here, I think this comes down to your estimation of how often he has aces here. If there's a > 10% chance he makes this play with anything less than aces, I think a shove is fine here. Any less and you can call. In any case you have 40% equity in the sidepot here against a random AAxx hand, so it's not all bad, though the other shortstack in there confuses things for the main pot.

Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
kcqckdqd 33.63% 161,467 1,240
AA** 43.03% 202,813 9,184
20% 23.35% 107,411 10,253

Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
kcqckdqd 40.15% 240,767 230
AA** 59.85% 359,003 230

Re: 10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

your hand is strong but omaha is a postflop game mainly, so don't commit more chips with bad position and just call.

It seems that Cernuto want to build the pot so we can assume that he has aces most of the time and one of your suit can be dead. Player dependant, against a very aggro man preflop, repotting could be an option.

Re: 10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

I don't know where all this flat-call nonsense is coming from. It doesn't even look like Cernuto has AA here. He's short enough that if he did have AA, he'd just repot and get half his stack in. This looks like some kind or good rundown where he thinks he can get you to make some bad folds on the flop. I'd say this is an easy shove. Double-paired, you're never in terrible shape anyway.

Re: 10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

Good point, I didn't notice that his raise wasn't for the pot, I'm firmly in the all-in camp now.

Re: 10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

you have a great hand and given the stack sizes i just shove

Re: 10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

Pretty clear shove from where I am sitting.

Re: 10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

they have 9bb and 30bb, just shove now so you are sure to see a turn and a river. you are never in terrible shape.

Re: 10/20 SH: KKQQ double suited vs Cernuto with likely AA
 

Ok, I wasn't quite sure how my hand plays vs his range and called, flopped top set, led out pot on a Q92ss board and got called by his single OESD only, He had KKJT ds, so at the very least I had the ranges figured ok.

ty for the help.