KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

I have been playing pretty aggressively. Villian has been playing fairly tight and is not very aggressive. The last hand that I played with him I had TPTK and he check called all the way until river with nut straight where he led out for pot. I'm not on my computer so no PT.


Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $28
SB: $23.30
BB: $30.30
UTG: $16.90
MP: $19.75
CO: $42.90

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, CO calls $3

Turn: ($9.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $15</font>, <font color="red">Hero???

Re: KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

I hate these spots, so hard to put CO on a hand because of his donkey actions preflop.

Re: KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

im folding here. Dont think he does this with much you beat

Re: KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

I fold I don't want to play for stacks here.

Re: KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

Check raise usually spells trouble, but with such little info about the guy who knows. This could be showing strength in this situation or he might widen your range since you have the btn and could be betting into you with JT. I'm curious what others have to say....

Re: KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

I'd fold here as well. The only hands I can think of that you beat, are JT and AJ.

Re: KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

I shove here, but my image is usualy [censored] up [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

My first thinking was that a check minraise on the turn is normally a strong hand. Do you guys see that also?

Re: KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

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My first thinking was that a check minraise on the turn is normally a strong hand. Do you guys see that also?

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This seems to be the case a lot, villain wants to get money in but thinks that with a min-raise, they won't lose you. A raise this size screams value IMO.

Re: KK vs. turn raise 25nl
 

min check raise looks strong here. I would be more tempted to call a shove, since he could shove here with a OESD that just picked up FD.

ON the other hand, this c/r is really horrible if it is for value, because he doesn't need to cr, since just calling leads to a pot of $24 on the river and hero will only have $16 left. So you can fold, and be happy he showed his strength here and let you escape with half your stack, instead of waiting until the river when he is pretty much guaranteed your whole stack, like he did i nthe last hand you played.

That said, you have seen him play his straights by calling turn/potting river, and since he's taking a different line now, maybe this is a cheap way for him to bluff his line in that hand, which makes this closer to a call. But I think this is giving him too much credit. I doubt he think that much about his lines.