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ama0330 10-27-2007 04:37 PM

The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
<font color="blue">I believe this is one of the hardest spots to figure out in uNL - mid strength hands from the SB where the flop is threatening. I have some theories about what is the best line and whatnot but I'm posting this more for you guys because I'm interested in what the genral consensus is about this hand.

Villain is standard, 19/16/3 over a good sample, no history this session and he's just a meow chow TAG, but you respect his game. Assume for now that there is no metagame or specific image involved.

Comment on the hand on all streets, and list your plan for the entirety of the hand, detailing what you intend to do if certain cards fall on the turn and river, as well as what you do if your opponent does something you were not anticipating. </font>


Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $50
UTG: $42.95
CO: $119.65
BTN: $59.50
SB: $57.55

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, CO calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero hitches up his pants and...

Micro Donk 10-27-2007 04:41 PM

Re: The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
i bet fold around 9. seems like a TAG is much more likely to raise/call a mid-pp then a hand like AJ-AQ, and if we check, he may bluff at it trying to represent the ace, and even if we c/c the flop, he would put us on exactly what we have and 2 barrel at least...

id rather b/f flop, people tend to not bluff 3b pots with an ace on the flop

if he calls, im done with the hand unless i improve

edit: i shouldnt say hes more likely to raise/call with mid pp than AQ since hes probably doing both, but theres more mid pps in his range than Ax hands

Hebel 10-27-2007 04:44 PM

Re: The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
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i bet fold around 9. seems like a TAG is much more likely to raise/call a mid-pp then a hand like AJ-AQ, and if we check, he may bluff at it trying to represent the ace, and even if we c/c the flop, he would put us on exactly what we have and 2 barrel at least...

id rather b/f flop, people tend to not bluff 3b pots with an ace on the flop

if he calls, im done with the hand unless i improve

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my line exactly

edit: im always leading 3/4ths pot, same as i always do

AFCBeer 10-27-2007 04:46 PM

Re: The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
Me too

Gelford 10-27-2007 04:46 PM

Re: The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
And bets 7$ and gives up to resistance depending on tells and reads.


He seems to have a wide range, tho no history, so it's hard to say, but on the other hand, can you really put him on solely an Ace ?


Anyways, if nothing else shania likes a bet here


Edit: nine is also a fine bet

yegon 10-27-2007 04:52 PM

Re: The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
I'd do the same with JJ as I would with TT or AK here and that is bet 9-10$ on the flop. Obv if I am raised I fold JJ. If I am called I check/fold turn.

ama0330 10-27-2007 04:57 PM

Re: The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
What do you think about preflop? And what hands, if any, would you check here?

CashMoney1995 10-27-2007 04:57 PM

Re: The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
not cbetting here sucks a lot. fire like 7.50 and obv fold to a raise.

Micro Donk 10-27-2007 05:00 PM

Re: The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
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What do you think about preflop? And what hands, if any, would you check here?

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i think preflop is pretty standard

i dont think im checking any hands im 3betting in this spot...

Hebel 10-27-2007 05:03 PM

Re: The hardest spot in micro stakes poker? JJ from the SB
 
i like a 3bet pf because co, a solid tag, can be raising a huge range, and this hand would be a lot harder to play if we smooth call and the flop comes overcard undercard uncercard rather than if we reraise and get a flop like this. tbh id rather just take it down pf and not even see a flop, i really hate jj


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