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Frawa 11-22-2007 12:17 PM

nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $89.20
SB: $96.65
BB: $173.45
UTG: $107.50
Hero (MP): $113.55
CO: $34.15

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls $10

Flop: ($29.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $21</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $93.50 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?

edit: sorry checked DB again , villain is 22/18/2.9 over 400h

spivey 11-22-2007 12:18 PM

Re: nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
Not crazy about repopping an unknown here preflop. As played, I call.

Daddy Warbucks 11-22-2007 12:21 PM

Re: nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
Exactly like spivey said, this spot sucks because he's an unknown. There's certain players this is a snap call against, ie ones play a lot of 3 bet pots, and ones who this is an automuck against. I guess there's informational value in calling, but i'm not crazy about it.

Frawa 11-22-2007 12:23 PM

Re: nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
i was wrong about sats , my DB messed it up before
villain is 22/18

Daddy Warbucks 11-22-2007 12:24 PM

Re: nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
Stats really can't help that much in this situation, you need a read or history.

shandyboy 11-22-2007 12:28 PM

Re: nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
not a massive fan of 3betting AJ to a TAG UTG raiser.

Tough spot, urgh, i call, but i really dont like it, i dont tend to get myself in these spots.

LiveNow 11-22-2007 01:54 PM

Re: nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
i'd call here. You've put a bunch of money in already and he could easily have some sort of draw here

DanJ. 11-22-2007 02:00 PM

Re: nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
PF is really bad. He raising UTG so hes already leaning on the strong side, AJ is just bad to 3b in general, you're going to get yourself in crappy spots like this one.

As played i would call, but i would have made my decision before i bet, whether i wanted to b/c b/f or check behind.

spivey 11-22-2007 02:05 PM

Re: nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
FWIW, I think b/f is terrible, and if you don't want to call a CRAI, I'd check flop. Also, a CRAI is so common in 3 bet pots, that betting without considering how to react to it is really bad.

Ganon 11-22-2007 02:06 PM

Re: nl100: 3betted AJ flops TPTK gets c/r
 
Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

This is a very annoying spot that you got yourself into. TBH I think you should polarize your 3betting range versus a tightish UTG to something like {QQ+,SCs} AJs is junk vs his range. Anyway now that you got here you need about 33% equity and I think its a stretch. It really looks like you're absolute toast here with something like ~20% equity vs a tight range - {QQ+,55,33,AcKc,AcQc}. If you add KJo you get close to 32% but unless you guys have some history or he is annoyed I don't see it happening too often. So up to you to decide if you want to make a likely -EV call for advertising and information.


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