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erc007 11-27-2007 03:42 AM

Stars 16.50...B vs B Flopped a str8...Ugly Turn + River
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t30578)
Button (t27160)
Hero (t90372)
BB (t114342)
UTG (t67798)
MP (t38841)

Villain is a winning micro-stakes player. He's been flatcalling my raises from the BB. Not too much hist HU, but i think he's calling me pretty light. Folded to a c-bet when i had AK on a 66Tr board. He hasn't 3-bet at all from any position fwiw. I've been opening a fair amt pre, but have been solid post.

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t8400) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t6500</font>, BB calls t6500.

Turn: (t21400) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t8000</font>, Hero calls t8000.

River: (t37400) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t20000</font>, Hero...?

Final Pot: t37000

omg im l337 11-27-2007 03:46 AM

Re: Stars 16.50...B vs B Flopped a str8...Ugly Turn + River
 
Fold. Any king or any flush has you beat.

erc007 11-27-2007 04:19 AM

Re: Stars 16.50...B vs B Flopped a str8...Ugly Turn + River
 
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Fold. Any king or any flush has you beat.

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(Not trying to be a jerk)...but i kinda figured this out as well.

The prob with his line is why would he semi-bluff a FD/bet any P;2P type of hand on the turn? Can he remove K's from my range b/c i didn't raise pre? If he was betting to protect/get value with a K, then why would he bet so much OTR, when my range for bet flop...c/c turn has a fair amt of FD's? The only hand that really makes sense for his line is Kxdd, or a weird bluff.

bata2 11-27-2007 06:35 AM

Re: Stars 16.50...B vs B Flopped a str8...Ugly Turn + River
 
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The only hand that really makes sense for his line is Kxdd, or a weird semi-bluff.

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BarryLyndon 11-27-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Stars 16.50...B vs B Flopped a str8...Ugly Turn + River
 
I highly doubt that villain is playing air on this board and the only way he can turn two pair or TP into a bluff is if he knew what you were holding. Thus, he would check river for showdown value. Thus, he has you beat.

Also, this line is kinduv funky, but more likely than not, he's just hoping that you made your flush as well and is trying to maximize value. Also, since you checked on the river on this board, he knows you are insecure about your hand and is trying to confuse you with the bigger bet.

Barry

TacitMike 11-27-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Stars 16.50...B vs B Flopped a str8...Ugly Turn + River
 
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Also, since you checked on the river on this board, he knows you are insecure about your hand and is trying to confuse you with the bigger bet.


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QFT. I love these spots in position.

JoeyJoJo Shabadu 11-27-2007 12:46 PM

Re: Stars 16.50...B vs B Flopped a str8...Ugly Turn + River
 
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The only hand that really makes sense for his line is Kxdd, or a weird semi-bluff.

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Huh? Ace little bets this way since we checked. So does a pair and two diamonds. Tdxd.


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