10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

5 handed.

hero has 4000 villain covers.
I raise Ah9o to 100 CO. Button calls.

Flop 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I lead for 200, button raises to 1150.

hero has been out of line in general, villain has been calling a lot preflop and generally folding to my cbets, is generally bad and im sensing is fed up w/ bs.

hero?

-JP

Re: 10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

umm if you dont want to fold and you think pushing is > calling, obv push? what am i missing? do you want ppl to say its ok? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: 10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

all your options kind of suck here--but they all suck about equally so i dont think it really matters what you do. if he's the type to raise/fold with a wide range of hands i'm obv pushing. if he's the type to check a lot of turns if i call then i'm calling. if he's a nit and always has a set/baby flush when he raises in this spot then i'm folding.

Re: 10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

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umm if you dont want to fold and you think pushing is > calling, obv push? what am i missing? do you want ppl to say its ok? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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yah i guess i kinda answered my q. thanks for the support.

hugs [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Only hesitation was due to being semi deep and pushing for a an overbet into a pot that began smallish (now is medium small i guess), vs an opponent who has shown little aggr. and me holding the key semibluff crd for him to have.

-JP

Re: 10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

fold it. he's got to expect you to sometimes have the Ah and shove it with your laggy image, so his raise shows a lot of strength. i expect to see a set/flush here a ton.

Re: 10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

You say he is generally bad and fed up. Does this mean his range includes 1-pair hands here?

I think folding is best but pushing isn't horrible.

Re: 10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

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fold it. he's got to expect you to sometimes have the Ah and shove it with your laggy image, so his raise shows a lot of strength. i expect to see a set/flush here a ton.

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Given the circumstances you describe, I am totally with fsuplayer here.

Re: 10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

pushing is ok. your not gonna fold here i guess, if so a better line is to call and to let him get it in for you.

Re: 10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

No one views this frustrated player who is 'fed up' as willing to make this move with just about any piece of this flop here? What does he do with a loan 9? 88? Wouldn't it be the same play?

Re: 10/25 NL shallowly deep. I dont want to fold but calling sucks.
 

He's gotta be pretty nutty for you to push here I think... and I highly doubt most people are raise/folding a better hand here if you shove.