Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

Villain is bmxreed46, 18/14/2.5 over 200 hands. Is double barreling this turn better here? Or check call / check fold depending on bet size? I think villain is definitely capable of floating here and also capable of folding a marginal hand like some random nine.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $202
UTG+1: $200
CO: $141.80
Button: $272.75
SB: $624.50
BB: $208.15

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $24</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $92</font>

Re: Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

this is a pretty good flop for villain to float. This turn is great if he were floating so a c/r cant be too bad. On the other hand, if he shoves on you calling is spew/it sucks because you just put in $100.

i think betting again is better as that way you dont have to put in 100 to have the desired effect.

Re: Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

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i think betting again is better as that way you dont have to put in 100 to have the desired effect.


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Yeah. I guess my logic was if he is floating with air I win more with a check raise, if he has an actual hand I have more fe with a check raise bc it is a lot stronger than just leading. If villain has a marginal hand with showdown value I get a free card and a decent shot at a likely 15 outer plus some possible scare cards.

Downside is it gets a lot more expensive when villain actually has something he likes and I can't fold if he shoves. I'm just not sure how to weight all this versus villains likey range and action to determine which is better.

Re: Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

this isnt about saving money by double barrelling instead of c/r here its more can you or have you done this with big hands before. Unless proven otherwise vs most regulars this is almost always a decent draw type hand and rarely and overpair. You usually dont want to risk going c/c on the turn on a lot of boards so u usally bet the turn. If he floats a lot and isnt a decent hand reader this is fine otherwise id expect him to look u up with a hand like 66 here

Re: Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

Well I would do this with an overpair sometimes but villain doesn't necessarily know that.

Re: Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

I don't like it in general, like it less against him. Also, I doubt that you play overpairs on this board that often vs someone like him.

Maybe against a bluff happy idiot with no concept of pot control but not him, not on this board. Also, he has TT-QQ, maybe 88 here a lot and he's pretty much never folding except on the rare occasion he dumps 88.

Re: Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

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I don't like it in general, like it less against him. Also, I doubt that you play overpairs on this board that often vs someone like him.

Maybe against a bluff happy idiot with no concept of pot control but not him, not on this board. Also, he has TT-QQ, maybe 88 here a lot and he's pretty much never folding except on the rare occasion he dumps 88.


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So does that mean you like a double barrel here or is that bad too?

Re: Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

yeah, I definitely like a double barrel.

Re: Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

If hero double barrels here what rivers are we all triple barreling since the board is so draw heavy and villain can probably call semilightly.

Re: Double Barrel better than check raise?, $200 NL
 

You can definitely rep a big hand here if you've taken this line with overpairs before. I like the play, but whether it's better than a 2barrel depends on the dynamics between you and the villain.