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C4LL4W4Y 11-04-2007 11:08 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Second hand in a row this guy does this. Am I a moran for calling here?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (3 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($29.05)
Button ($36.50)
SB ($17.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, SB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($5) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $14.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $14.85.

Final Pot: $34.70

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i'd fold unless i had a read that he bluff shoves rivers. calling $15 into a $20 pot isn't profitable here unless you know that.

ShipitFMA 11-04-2007 11:09 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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in like 8 seconds can you?

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I'll bet he can [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Spurious 11-04-2007 11:33 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
does anyone know of a table opener for stars?

castigar 11-04-2007 12:04 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
What do you get when you refer someone on Cardrunners? Is it worth it?

monkover 11-04-2007 12:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
yeah obv not in 8 sec but i wouldnīt pay 400$ just for that

thac 11-04-2007 12:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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yeah obv not in 8 sec but i wouldnīt pay 400$ just for that

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Also finds you the best tables.

monkover 11-04-2007 12:15 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
but still 400$ is one good old tilt

hennnerz 11-04-2007 12:16 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
What is the 400$ for?

monkover 11-04-2007 12:19 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
isnīt that how much the preogramm is?

thac 11-04-2007 12:20 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
lolol no it's $30

netstorm 11-04-2007 12:22 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
$400?!?!

monkover 11-04-2007 12:44 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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spadeeye is worth paying 400$ for

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k it was this that i read
what the heck is spadeeye then?

thac 11-04-2007 12:46 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
He was saying that if it was $400, it'd still be worth it. www.spadeit.com - check it out. It's the top-left program on the opening page.

monkover 11-04-2007 12:49 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
ah kk sweet i think iīm going to get that... After my 7.5 bi downswing at 100nl this looks really cheap.

thac 11-04-2007 12:53 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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ah kk sweet i think iīm going to get that... After my 7.5 bi downswing at 100nl this looks really cheap.

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So worth it if you know how to use it, finding the best tables and staying away from the reg-infested tables helps your winrate so much.

hennnerz 11-04-2007 12:53 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I thought we were talking about FTTO anyways

thac 11-04-2007 12:55 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Ew, who uses that? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Genz 11-04-2007 01:20 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Just played 10nl.....24 tabling.


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Why would anyone want to pay that much rake? And I would probably get an epileptic seizure from all the blinking and beeping.

thac 11-04-2007 02:13 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee IMO

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $299.35
BB: $200
Hero (UTG): $259.40
MP: $385.45
CO: $207.40
BTN: $115.50

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, 4 folds

Flop: ($19) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, MP calls $12

Turn: ($43) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $28</font>, Hero calls $28

River: ($99) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $70</font>, Hero calls $70

Results: $239 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Tens) and WON $236 (+$118 NET)
MP showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$118 NET)

wingchunflush 11-04-2007 02:27 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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How are you getting stacked so often at 10NL?

You are having multiple 3-4 buyin swongs in just a few 100 hands.

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I wish I knew. All of my sessions tend to be swingy. I am not sure. I have been set over set like 4 or 5 times so far this month. I need some coaching...I was in talks with SSDEX but I can't ever get ahold of him.

Spurious 11-04-2007 02:29 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
just post some hands where you are getting stacked, it's not mainly from bad luck i think

Gelford 11-04-2007 02:30 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Is any converter working with ipoker ?

Mr_Pathetic 11-04-2007 02:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I am officially addicted to PLO. Don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing...

wingchunflush 11-04-2007 02:37 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
It was so sick last night I had 8 tables going and on 4 of them I had like 3-4 buy ins. One had a guy who kept shoving PF and I couldnt win a flip against him. The other 3 I just kept getting unlucky, AK vs K8 on Kxx flop he calls bets all the way down and hits an 8 on the river. Just so sick.

Gelford 11-04-2007 02:39 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I am officially addicted to PLO. Don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing...

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And I'm enjoying minbet ... again.


Just watched some of The Bryce's Classroom vids ... fairly good material [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Bantam222 11-04-2007 02:44 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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It was so sick last night I had 8 tables going and on 4 of them I had like 3-4 buy ins. One had a guy who kept shoving PF and I couldnt win a flip against him. The other 3 I just kept getting unlucky, AK vs K8 on Kxx flop he calls bets all the way down and hits an 8 on the river. Just so sick.

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ummm maybe you shouldn't 8 table until you figure out how to win first?

Spurious 11-04-2007 02:46 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I am officially addicted to PLO. Don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing...

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i am, too, but i dont know how to play it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

i had to force myself to play holdem [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Genz 11-04-2007 02:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Is any converter working with ipoker ?

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Yes:

http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx
You can choose between uploading the xml-file, which sucks and pasting the hand history text from poker tracker, which rox.

Genz 11-04-2007 02:49 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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It was so sick last night I had 8 tables going

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I think I spotted your leak. Sorry to be so blunt, but your results tell me that your autopilot isn't good enough to play 8 tables. You probably lack foundations. Play less tables, don't to anything fancy, concentrate on not getting into trouble, only play big pots when you are sure you are ahead etc. That definitely should do the trick for 10nl and a winrate of at least 5 PTBB/100 should be easily achievable.

wingchunflush 11-04-2007 02:53 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I have been winning at this level consistently. It isnt like I havent ever had a winning month at this level. I had a winning month last month and the month before just kind of swongy and I am not really loosing here. 4k breakeven spell isnt that big of a deal just frustrating.
I agree that I need to work on some things here, but I think I am kind of in limbo. I can apply the thinking when looking at hands, but I dont seem to think as clearly when involved in the hand. Its not that I am autopiloting or timing out, I am not sure what happens.
My W$WSF is over 40, I just dont know how to fix it.

Nemesis69 11-04-2007 02:54 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Is any converter working with ipoker ?

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Yes:

http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx
You can choose between uploading the xml-file, which sucks and pasting the hand history text from poker tracker, which rox.

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Thanks man! This works with TonyG Poker as well. I want my tony G points so bad. Now I've got PT, but it isn't working with TonyG Poker [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Micro Donk 11-04-2007 02:55 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I have been winning at this level consistently. It isnt like I havent ever had a winning month at this level. I had a winning month last month and the month before just kind of swongy and I am not really loosing here. 4k breakeven spell isnt that big of a deal just frustrating.
I agree that I need to work on some things here, but I think I am kind of in limbo. I can apply the thinking when looking at hands, but I dont seem to think as clearly when involved in the hand. Its not that I am autopiloting or timing out, I am not sure what happens.
My W$WSF is over 40, I just dont know how to fix it.

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so you should really play less tables until you can apply it

Gelford 11-04-2007 02:57 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Is any converter working with ipoker ?

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Yes:

http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx
You can choose between uploading the xml-file, which sucks and pasting the hand history text from poker tracker, which rox.

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Thx Genz [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

wingchunflush 11-04-2007 02:57 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
If I play 6 tables it is either much better or much worse. I get really fidgety and start trying to "outplay" people post flop and such

Genz 11-04-2007 02:58 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Is any converter working with ipoker ?

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Yes:

http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx
You can choose between uploading the xml-file, which sucks and pasting the hand history text from poker tracker, which rox.

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Thanks man! This works with TonyG Poker as well. I want my tony G points so bad. Now I've got PT, but it isn't working with TonyG Poker [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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WTF? Tony G poker? I would never give that dude any money. Lol!

Genz 11-04-2007 03:03 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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If I play 6 tables it is either much better or much worse. I get really fidgety and start trying to "outplay" people post flop and such

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Sorry, but this is pure BS. If you can't single table without getting yourself into trouble, then you have serious fps. And the fact that your attempts at outplaying people obviously don't seem to be very successfull just means one thing: you are dependant on your ABC poker style and do NOT read situations and/or players too well. I don't want to be impolite, but putting things friendly never helps someone who is in denial about his incompetence at a certain thing. And I know what I am talking about coz I am just recovering from an autopilot that was driving me straight down the hill. Sessions shouldn't always be very swongy because you should avoid losing big pots a lot. there is no need for a high variance playing style on 10nl. And there is no such need on 25NL and 50NL either. Same goes for 100 and 200NL, I'm pretty sure.

Genz 11-04-2007 03:04 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Is any converter working with ipoker ?

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Yes:

http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx
You can choose between uploading the xml-file, which sucks and pasting the hand history text from poker tracker, which rox.

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Thx Genz [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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LOL. you edited it! I wanted to make a joke about you obviously having a non-english keyboard.

Gelford 11-04-2007 03:06 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Haha ...

wingchunflush 11-04-2007 03:18 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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If I play 6 tables it is either much better or much worse. I get really fidgety and start trying to "outplay" people post flop and such

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Sorry, but this is pure BS. If you can't single table without getting yourself into trouble, then you have serious fps. And the fact that your attempts at outplaying people obviously don't seem to be very successfull just means one thing: you are dependant on your ABC poker style and do NOT read situations and/or players too well. I don't want to be impolite, but putting things friendly never helps someone who is in denial about his incompetence at a certain thing. And I know what I am talking about coz I am just recovering from an autopilot that was driving me straight down the hill. Sessions shouldn't always be very swongy because you should avoid losing big pots a lot. there is no need for a high variance playing style on 10nl. And there is no such need on 25NL and 50NL either. Same goes for 100 and 200NL, I'm pretty sure.

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I am not saying that my game is overly good. Otherwise I would be crushing this level. You are the only person who has said that ABC poker is not 100% the way to go at this level. I dont know how many turns I played aggressivly when a flush made or a scare card hit, either leading out or raising just to get called by second pair. So no I am not going to "play the situation" because most of the time at micro limits its not needed. I am not in denial about my game, if i was i would say its all just me getting unlucky, I am fully aware that I am doing something incorrectly or else i would be playing 50nl or higher by now.

derosnec 11-04-2007 03:42 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i swear my 5ptbb/100 winrate could be 10ptbb if i just fold to aggression. people's bluff-raise % and 3bet light% is like 2%. from now on, super duper tight against aggression.


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