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mekkas 11-19-2007 08:12 PM

NL50 - AQ river action
 
Villain is 24-18 and we are both double stacked (me 90$ villain 89$) Comments on flop and turn would help, but the most important is the river action.

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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($28.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $18</font>, UTG calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($61.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ?

Profish2285 11-19-2007 08:16 PM

Re: NL50 - AQ river action
 
Stacks would help. Assuming 100 bbs you already have 32/50 in there his line really looks like top pair so I dont see anything wrong with getting the rest in here. I dont think the turn and river improved him unless he is a complete idiot.

balzak520 11-19-2007 08:40 PM

Re: NL50 - AQ river action
 
In a vacuum, with these descriptions, I'm betting and extracting value. Have you C/R'ed him on such a dry flop before?

friskyfleabag 11-19-2007 08:55 PM

Re: NL50 - AQ river action
 
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In a vacuum, with these descriptions, I'm betting and extracting value. Have you C/R'ed him on such a dry flop before?

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he didn't c/r, the guy donkbet into him

bsball8806 11-19-2007 09:57 PM

Re: NL50 - AQ river action
 
Assuming you have somewhere around a PSB left, I'm fine with getting it all in here. I can't see him checking the river with a hand that you beat here. Shove it all in and hope QK calls you.

PaulG 11-19-2007 11:09 PM

Re: NL50 - AQ river action
 
Do we really think that a 24-18 calls our flop raise with KQ?

billip62 11-20-2007 12:15 AM

Re: NL50 - AQ river action
 
as played I'd go to valuetown on the river, but I would seriously consider checking behind on the turn for some pot control. I could be completely wrong here as I'm starting to worry I don't get enough value on my winning hands to make up for the coolers.

Am I correct in check checking the turn given the deep stacks?

calimero 11-20-2007 09:49 AM

Re: NL50 - AQ river action
 
this reeks of a typical set-spot.. "I can't see him checking the river with a hand that you beat"

just check behind

Lego05 11-20-2007 09:56 AM

Re: NL50 - AQ river action
 
Just call the flop. The only hand that you beat that isn't gonna fold (either there or instafold to a second bet) is KQ or maayyybe QJ and QJ prolly folds to a second bet and KQ might fold on a 2nd or 3rd bet too.

Just call the flop and keep his range wide...give him a chance to double barrel and such. There are no draws on that flop and his range is so wide. Really no reason at all to raise.


As played I might check behind on turn due to my slip up in raising the flop.


As played on the river I bet like 38. His hand now really looks like a weaker Q. I think the shove of $60 might fold it out so I bet like $38ish trying to get a call from KQ/QJ or mayybe a really stubborn JJ.

Lego05 11-20-2007 09:57 AM

Re: NL50 - AQ river action
 
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this reeks of a typical set-spot.. "I can't see him checking the river with a hand that you beat"

just check behind

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Clearly he meant "with a hand that you don't beat".


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