50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

MP2 is like 38/5/1 after 100 hands.
What's our line?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $30.95
UTG+1: $19.50
Hero: $72.95
MP2: $38.35
CO: $34.30
Button: $89.25
SB: $20.90
BB: $18.50

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP2 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10, 5 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ??</font>

Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

push, they're short, you have an overpair. You could call and see a safe card if you don't like variance to much and want to use your position a little more.

Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

Arr-een

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Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

That flop isn't that dangerous. I would raise or shove.

Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

Raise to $10 or shove. They are shortstacked and I wouldn't mind a call here.

Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

That's a really weak lead by SB, you definitely have to re-pop it in my opinion. As short as they are...just shove.

Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

I probably raise to $2.50-$3 preflop to try and isolate.

As played,

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Arr-een

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Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

raise a little more pre.

shove. if you don't like shoving then raise to at least $10 and get it in on any turn

Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

So it looks like everyone is advocating pushing/raising. OK, I agree, that's an obvious play.

I raise to $15, and UTG+1 calls. The turn is 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and UTG+1 goes all in for the remaining $3.90. Now we're obviously up against a flush. Do we still call? Are we ever good here?

Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

Folding for about 4 into an about 40 dollar pot is bad.

Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

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So it looks like everyone is advocating pushing/raising. OK, I agree, that's an obvious play.

I raise to $15, and UTG+1 calls. The turn is 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and UTG+1 goes all in for the remaining $3.90. Now we're obviously up against a flush. Do we still call? Are we ever good here?

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That's why you should just shove the flop because if you raise you are priced in to call turn no matter what. You have to call here though. The odds are just too good.

Re: 50NL - KK on a dangerous flop
 

yes, you are easily good/have pot odds against 2pair etc enough to make the call. When you raise $15 instead of shoving you have to commit any and all turns