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Chip753 10-28-2007 06:11 PM

Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
I beg your pardon because probably I am asking something about you wrote tons of times but, looking for that, I found nothing.

I have started to use Poker Tracker Omaha but I don't know what kind of settings should I put. Are there some thread in which I can find some advice?
Can you help me?

Thank you at all. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

pete fabrizio 10-28-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
yes, the low content thread

Buzz 10-28-2007 06:49 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
I have started to use Poker Tracker Omaha but I don't know what kind of settings should I put. Are there some thread in which I can find some advice?
Can you help me?

[/ QUOTE ]Hi Chip - Try typing "poker tracker" (with the quotation marks) into the search box that is located at the bottom of the page when you first click onto this forum and see the list of posts.

I just did that and got a listing of 144 posts belonging to some lesser number of threads where poker tracker has been discussed on this forum. Something on one of those threads might get you started.

Hope this helps.

Buzz

luckyjimm 10-28-2007 06:55 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
It seems nobody is willing to help on this. I tried asking in the 'Software' forum for help on what settings to use to auto-rate players for PokerTracker Omaha, and nobody replied. The search function brought up nothing. All you get, as you've seen here, is silence or smart-arsed, arrogant and smug replies.

Troll_Inc 10-28-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
It seems nobody is willing to help on this. I tried asking in the 'Software' forum for help on what settings to use to auto-rate players for PokerTracker Omaha, and nobody replied. The search function brought up nothing. All you get, as you've seen here, is silence or smart-arsed, arrogant and smug replies.

[/ QUOTE ]

Arrogrant and smug aren't necessarily mutually inclusive.

BTW, I didn't think you were going to post here until you finished your PLO project from a few weeks back?

luckyjimm 10-28-2007 07:01 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
Oh yes, and the search function on this site is the biggest load of useless [censored] [censored] in the world. It can't even do a [censored] two-word search, if you put:

PokerTracker +Omaha

it ignores the + and searches for either word. What a load of bollocks!

luckyjimm 10-28-2007 07:02 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
It seems nobody is willing to help on this. I tried asking in the 'Software' forum for help on what settings to use to auto-rate players for PokerTracker Omaha, and nobody replied. The search function brought up nothing. All you get, as you've seen here, is silence or smart-arsed, arrogant and smug replies.

[/ QUOTE ]

Arrogrant and smug aren't necessarily mutually inclusive.

BTW, I didn't think you were going to post here until you finished your PLO project from a few weeks back?

[/ QUOTE ]



Eh, I can't remember what that was.

Still looking for help with PLO player rating rules!

jipster 10-28-2007 07:13 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
luckyjim - i believe the majority of folks on the plo forum will tell you that the player ratings don't work for omaha... i think thats because a player can be 80/20 or 30/5 and still achieve the same bb/100... that is there are so many winning (and losing) styles that its hard to rate the players effectively.

OP - what is it you are asking? how to use pto, what the numbers or stats mean? etc...

pete fabrizio 10-28-2007 07:35 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
i tried figuring out an autorating scheme and it was pretty useless. I simplified it and said that anyone with vpip over 55 is a fish, under 25 is a rock, preflop PFR below 10 is passive, above 20 is aggressive, post-flop AF below 2 is passive and above 3 is aggressive. and any vpip above 40 is probably too loose. but even those general parameters seem to have exceptions, since there are some pretty good 20/2 or 50/12 players (and at the higher limits some pretty good 55/30 types) who don't fit the 30/20 mold. broadly i think the rating system is pretty useless, since you can get a pretty good sense of someone's style (though not necessarily their quality of play) from vpip, PFR and aggression factor (especially if you look street by street) without needing a little icon to summarize it.

Wires 10-28-2007 07:39 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
All you get, as you've seen here, is silence or smart-arsed, arrogant and smug replies.

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you feeling a little sensitive today, luckyjim? Buzz responded to the guy in a very cordial manner but obviously you didn't read that before you made your arrogant and smug reply. You were also only the third person to respond to the thread so the fact that you type "it seems that no one is going to help you" is very amusing.

[ QUOTE ]
The search function brought up nothing.

[/ QUOTE ]

Again if you had taken the time to read Buzz's post before ranting you would have seen that if you type "poker tracker" with the quotes into the search box you will get a ton of hits. I just did it myself (setting the parameter for 1 year)and received almost 200 hits most with useful information.

Chip753 10-28-2007 07:49 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
Thank you for your answers.

Looking around in the forum I found some threads about this argument but kust from a NLHE point of view.
It is very interesting what you said about the fact that it is almost impossible to find a clear definition for the qualities of a player in PLO.

Thanks.

Buzz 10-28-2007 07:52 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
It seems nobody is willing to help on this.

[/ QUOTE ]Luckyjimm - Seems ironic that your reply that nobody is willing to help on this is to a post where I tried to help on this.

Admittedly, it was a feeble attempt, but I don't play on-line.

But I can understand that someone who uses and profits from poker tracker, and who thinks of you as prey might be reticent to help you, and might even make a rude and/or non-helpful and/or obtuse or misleading response post to your request for help.

On the other hand, there are many others who post here who are willing to share and who try to be helpful and who are not condescending, rude, or misleading.

I can appreciate your frustration. It's pretty hard to know who to trust.

With regard to the search function, try what I suggested in my first post in this thread.

The 2+2 forums will soon be switching to vBulletin software. There's a note regarding the change in the top sticky in the "About the Forums" forum. In that sticky there's a URL to a discussion. If you have complaints or suggestions about the search function, you might join in that discussion. (Maybe read it first).

Hope this helps. Meanwhile, while I was typing this, there seem to be some other more responsive posts.

Buzz

luckyjimm 10-28-2007 08:03 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
Telling someone to "Search for Poker Tracker" is hardly helpful, since it brings up so many irrelevant results and nothing of specific use to someone wishing to learn how to use PokerTracker Omaha. And obviously OP knew he could search, but wanted some ACTUAL HELP. So I just assumed that, like Mr Fabrizio, you were being snide and sarcastic. I am sorry my faith in humanity is so low.

Troll_Inc 10-28-2007 08:12 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]




BTW, I didn't think you were going to post here until you finished your PLO project from a few weeks back?

[/ QUOTE ]



Eh, I can't remember what that was.


[/ QUOTE ]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rt=all&vc=1

Ironically it is in a thread you started about Pokertracker.

"Okay, I may well revive this thread when I get to 10k hands.
Since my playing is limited to the evenings and I only single-table, this may take a while. So just get on with your lives in the meantime, guys!"

Buzz 10-28-2007 08:40 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
Telling someone to "Search for Poker Tracker" is hardly helpful

[/ QUOTE ]Hi Jim - I agree.

What I wrote is[ QUOTE ]
Try typing "poker tracker" (with the quotation marks) into the search box that is located at the bottom of the page when you first click onto this forum and see the list of posts.

[/ QUOTE ]Search for "poker tracker" and "Search for poker tracker" are very much different. (One is helpful, while the other is not).

I can see how you could misinterpret what I wrote. But I was honestly not trying to be snide and sarcastic.

[ QUOTE ]
I am sorry my faith in humanity is so low.

[/ QUOTE ]No problem. Alas, at times mine is too.

My main interest is in Omaha-8, but I'm interested in other poker games as well, and in particular, it seems like understanding Omaha-high can only help me to better understand the high aspect of Omaha-8.

I used to post on r.g.p. and I still feel a kinship with some of those posters. But there's a lot of crap to sift through on r.g.p. to get to meaningful threads about Omaha-8.

I don't feel like being critical of any function of 2+2. Instead I feel grateful that free sites are provided for discussion of tactics and strategy of both Omaha and Omaha-8.

But I can understand how you might feel frustrated with the current search function.

Buzz

Elrazor 10-29-2007 04:31 AM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
FWIW, i have a set of rules saved in note form, 1 for auto rate rules (not overly useful) and 1 for starting hands. take then for what they are

Starting Hand Categories PTO Begin
1 Aces AA
1 Kings KK
1 Queens QQ
1 jacks JJ QJJT,JJT9,QJJ9,JJT8,JJ98
1 Tens TT TT97,TT87,QJJT,QJTT,JJT9,JTT9,JT99,TT98,T998,T988
1 Nines 99 9987,JT99,TT98,T998,T988,9988,9977,9966,9955,9944, 9933,9922
1 Eights 88 8877,8866,8855,8844,8833,8822,JT88,J998,J988,T988
1 Sevens 77 7766,7755,7744,7733,7722,9877,8876,8776,8766,7765
1 sixs 66
1 Fives 55
1 Fours 44
1 Threes 33
1 Twos 22
1 High Wraps AKQJ,KQJT,QJT9,JT98
1 Middle Wraps T987,9876,8765
1 Low Wraps 7654,6543,5432
1 High Gap Wrap KQJ9,KQT9,KJT9,QJT8,QJ98,QT98,JT97,JT87
1 Middle Gap Wrap J987,T986,T976,T876,9875,9865,9765,8764
1 Low Gap Wrap 8754,8654,7653,7643,7543,6542,6532,6432
1 High Pair Wraps QJJT,QJTT,JJT9,JTT9,JT99,TT98,T998,T988
1 Middle Pair Wraps 9987,9887,9877,8876,8776,8766,7765
1 Low Pair Wraps 7665,7655,6654,6554,6544,5543,5443,5433,4432,4332, 4322
1 High Pair Gap Wraps QJJ9,QTT9,QJ99,QT99,JJT8,JJ98,JTT8,JT88,J998,J988
1 Middle Pair Gap TT97,TT87,T997,T977,T877,T887,9986,9976,9886,9776, 9866,9766,8875,8865,8775,8665,8755,8655
1 Low Pair Gap Wraps 7764,7754,7664,7554,7644,7544,6653,6643,6553,6443, 6533,6433,5542,5532,5442,5332,5422,5322
1 Ace Wraps AQJT,AJT9,AT98,A987,A876,A765,A654,A543,A432
1 Ace Gap Wraps AQJ9,AQT9,AJT8,AJ98,AT97,AT87,A986,A976,A875,A865, A764,A754,A653,A652
1 High Double Pairs JJTT,JJ99,JJ88,JJ77,JJ66,JJ55,JJ44,JJ33,JJ22,TT99, TT88,TT77,TT66,TT55,TT44,TT33,TT22
1 Middle Double Pairs 9988,9977,9966,9955,9944,9933,9922,8877,8866,8855, 8844,8833,8822
1 Low Double Pairs 7766,7755,7744,7733,7722,6655,6644,6633,6622,5544, 5533,5522,4433,4422,3322
Starting Hand Categories PTO End


Autorate Rules Begin
Aggression:N
ARI_4 1 Showdown Muppet
4 5 1.00 35.00 Won $ At Showdown % is between 1.00 and 35.00
3 1 25.00 Went To Showdown % is greater than 25.00
ARI_3 2 Cashpoint
1 5 55.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 55.00 and 99.00
ARI_12 3 Calling Station
15 5 0.01 1.80 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.01 and 1.80
3 5 30.00 99.00 Went To Showdown % is between 30.00 and 99.00
1 1 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 30.00
ARI_7 4 Ultra-Aggressor
16 2 2.75 Aggression Factor - Flop is greater than or equal to 2.75
17 2 1.70 Aggression Factor - Turn is greater than or equal to 1.70
18 2 1.70 Aggression Factor - River is greater than or equal to 1.70
ARI_6 5 Weak Tight
3 5 1.00 20.00 Went To Showdown % is between 1.00 and 20.00
ARI_15 6 TAG
1 3 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 25.00
15 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 2.00
ARI_8 7 Semi loose agressive
1 5 25.00 55.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 25.00 and 55.00
15 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 2.00
ARI_10 8 Taz
1 5 55.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 55.00 and 99.00
15 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 2.00
ARI_9 9 Rock
1 3 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 25.00
15 5 0.01 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.01 and 1.50
ARI_13 10 Mouse
15 5 0.01 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.01 and 1.50
1 5 25.00 55.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 25.00 and 55.00
ARI_2 11 Fishy
1 5 55.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 55.00 and 99.00
15 5 0.01 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.01 and 1.50
ARI_5 0 Tight Vanilla
1 3 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 25.00
ARI_11 0 Vanilla Vanilla
1 5 25.00 55.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 25.00 and 55.00
ARI_14 0 Loose Vanilla
1 5 25.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 25.00 and 99.00
Autorate Rules End

sputum 10-29-2007 01:41 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
Yay ty a good starting point for autorate and decent categories [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Chillee 10-29-2007 02:51 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
Nice categories. TY

RoundTower 10-29-2007 03:08 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
Oh yes, and the search function on this site is the biggest load of useless [censored] [censored] in the world. It can't even do a [censored] two-word search, if you put:

PokerTracker +Omaha

it ignores the + and searches for either word. What a load of bollocks!

[/ QUOTE ]
It works as documented. You mean to search

+PokerTracker +Omaha

pete fabrizio 10-29-2007 05:38 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
ARI_7 4 Ultra-Aggressor
16 2 2.75 Aggression Factor - Flop is greater than or equal to 2.75
17 2 1.70 Aggression Factor - Turn is greater than or equal to 1.70
18 2 1.70 Aggression Factor - River is greater than or equal to 1.70

[/ QUOTE ]

This doesn't seem that aggressive to me.

Buzz 10-29-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
It works as documented. You mean to search

+PokerTracker +Omaha

[/ QUOTE ]Thanks RoundTower, that is very helpful to me as I continue to try to figure out how to use the search function.

Buzz

luckyjimm 10-29-2007 08:19 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Oh yes, and the search function on this site is the biggest load of useless [censored] [censored] in the world. It can't even do a [censored] two-word search, if you put:

PokerTracker +Omaha

it ignores the + and searches for either word. What a load of bollocks!

[/ QUOTE ]
It works as documented. You mean to search

+PokerTracker +Omaha

[/ QUOTE ]


+[censored] +[censored] +[censored]

wazz 10-29-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...e=0#Post9723713

Buzz 10-29-2007 10:37 PM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
Thanks Wazz. I actually already read that post without getting much out of it, but maybe it will help someone else.

The best post on how to use the search function was written by our own Phil153 over on the ATF forum. Basically I use Phil's advice when I search for something and then tell someone how they might find something about the topic they're seeking.

Next thing I'm going to do, and tonight, if i get a chance, is use the template from your URL to figure out how to write URLs.

(I know it's shameful that I'm modding here without knowing how to write URLs but hopefully we'll take care of that tonight).

Anyhow, thanks.

Buzz

Elrazor 10-30-2007 07:17 AM

Re: Poker Tracker Omaha Settings
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
ARI_7 4 Ultra-Aggressor
16 2 2.75 Aggression Factor - Flop is greater than or equal to 2.75
17 2 1.70 Aggression Factor - Turn is greater than or equal to 1.70
18 2 1.70 Aggression Factor - River is greater than or equal to 1.70

[/ QUOTE ]

This doesn't seem that aggressive to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

i knew i shoudnt have posted this, someone was bound to go over it with a fine tooth combe........

and no it isnt, but players falling in this cat tend to be winners and taken as a sample over my PTO the catagory isnt exactly overloaded with players, i just counted 66 out of 1224 over this month so thats around 5% who are more agressive than this so obviously 95% who are less so there is little point in raising the bar to what i would consider agressive and only having 10 players listed


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