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Yentz 10-28-2007 08:37 AM

Deep AA Crypto 500NL, flop decision
 
Villain is running at 38/1 or so over only 80 hands or so.
His postflop aggression per street over this very small sample is flop 5/Turn 1.8/River 3.

I played this crazy hand with him where I flopped a straigt flush against his nut flush, where he calls the river
with 3 Kings on the board.

Cryptologic Network No-Limit Hold'em, $5 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|[color=Red]saw showdown</font>

UTG ($584.40)
MP ($683.95)
CO ($610.65)
[color=Red]Button ($1997.20)</font>
SB ($501.65)
[color=Red]Hero ($744.15)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], T[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]].
[color=Gray]1 fold</font>, MP calls $5, [color=Gray]1 fold</font>, Button calls $5, [color=Gray]1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($17) 9[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], K[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], J[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](3 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=Red]MP bets $10</font>, Button calls $10, [color=Red]Hero raises to $35</font>, MP folds, [color=Red]Button raises to $60</font>, [color=Red]Hero raises to $215</font>, Button calls $120.

Turn: ($422) K[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]Hero bets $200</font>, Button calls $200.

River: ($822) K[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]Hero bets $359.15</font>, Button calls $359.15.

Final Pot: $1540.30

Results in white below: [color=White]
Hero has Qd Td (straight flush, king high).
Button has 7d Ad (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $1540.30. </font>

So, either he is vastly overvaluing his hands, or he thinks that I suck big time, which I dont have any reason to think he should think.

On to the hand in question :

Cryptologic Network No-Limit Hold'em, $5 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|[color=Red]saw showdown</font>

BB ($590)
UTG ($1690.10)
MP ($460.65)
[color=Red]CO ($1532.35)</font>
[color=Red]Button ($500)</font>
[color=Red]Hero ($1311.30)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], A[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]].
[color=Red]UTG raises to $15</font>, MP calls $15, CO calls $15, [color=Red]Hero raises to $75</font>, [color=Gray]1 fold</font>, UTG calls $60, MP folds, CO calls $60.

Flop: ($247) T[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]], J[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], 3[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](4 players)</font>
[color=Red]Hero bets $200</font>, UTG folds, [color=Red]CO raises to $400</font>, Hero ?

How would you proceed? Just get it in, CR most turns, stop and go, or is this guy minraising this deep enough to slow down, even after seeing how he played the previous hand?

This may be trivial, but for some reason I cant let it go and would really like some input here.

(On a side note, is there a better converter for Cryptologic? This is the only one I could get to precess the HH, but as you can see it is not doing too great a job)

KvGalen 10-28-2007 08:52 AM

Re: Deep AA Crypto 500NL, flop decision
 
call and reevaluate on turn, probably play for stacks vs this 38/1 guy

tedtodd 10-28-2007 09:15 AM

Re: Deep AA Crypto 500NL, flop decision
 
Wow. Tough spot. You leading out here against 2 villains should be viewed as pretty strong by the CO. And he does tend to minraise when he flops big hands.

With stats like 38/1, it's tough to put him on a hand. I'd like to think he would've reraised PF with TT/JJ, making it unlikely for a set here. Possibly KQ...OESD.

Call and evealuate turn.

Black winter day 10-28-2007 10:49 AM

Re: Deep AA Crypto 500NL, flop decision
 
I use this one to convert Crypto hands
http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter

On the hand in question - make it at least a 100 preflop.You are deep and OOP with a hand that you will have to play UI most likely and tough to let go of it, you don't want several callers.

38/1 should be pretty passive, i'd call flop and fold to any further aggression unless the turn is 3 or A.
I don't think he will bluff and i don't think he overplays AJ like this after you call.
It's JT or a set a LOT.

Black winter day 10-28-2007 10:51 AM

Re: Deep AA Crypto 500NL, flop decision
 
[ QUOTE ]
Wow. Tough spot. You leading out here against 2 villains should be viewed as pretty strong by the CO. And he does tend to minraise when he flops big hands.

With stats like 38/1, it's tough to put him on a hand. I'd like to think he would've reraised PF with TT/JJ, making it unlikely for a set here. Possibly KQ...OESD.

Call and evealuate turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why do you think 38/ 1 reraises TT or JJ [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
That's exactly the types of hands they are calling with.

Kwantum 10-28-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Deep AA Crypto 500NL, flop decision
 
First hand, I like a much larger turn bet than $200.

Second hand, call flop. I like a CR on most turns.

Darkfolder 10-28-2007 05:24 PM

Re: Deep AA Crypto 500NL, flop decision
 
Fold it.


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