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yegon 11-13-2007 07:30 PM

NL50 - QQ taking heat
 
Today I got lots of action with QQ hands. I am unsure if I played them well ( apart from being able to catch sets with them [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )


HAND 1:
I just started playing at the table so no history. I really did not think he would do this with AK and I did not beat anything else.

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $49.19
CO: $48.50
BTN: $49.50
SB: $55.73
Hero (BB): $127.33
UTG: $62.75

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $5

Flop: ($14.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $20</font>, Hero folds


HAND 2 (happenned 3 hands after HAND 1):
This should have been a fold after he raised me on the flop right? What about bet sizes? Villain is 16/10/1.2 over 80 hands. On another table a couple minutes ago he donked with 99 on 573 flop into 2 oponents and called a big raise I made with KK, he turned a set and stacked me.

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $48.69
BB: $49.25
UTG: $65.04
MP: $55.48
Hero (CO): $110.08
BTN: $62.75

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $6.50</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.50

Flop: ($13.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $9.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $56.25 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $32.25


HAND 3:
Villain was trying to rep AA/KK but he seemed really bad although the sample was just 15 hands 53/20/1. Do I give credit here? If so where do I fold?

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $46.55
MP: $52.87
CO: $9.87
BTN: $45.39
Hero (SB): $78.17
BB: $49.20

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $8</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $4.50

Flop: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $31.50</font>, MP calls $24.50

Turn: ($80) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, MP calls $13.37 and is All-In

billip62 11-13-2007 07:41 PM

Re: NL50 - QQ taking heat
 
very tricky spots, but I think QQ is trickier than JJ in cash games. Hand 1 I have no idea. Depending on the average player at party I could see either a shove or fold, but I'm interested to see what everyone else says.

Hand 2 you really are commited into seeing if it's JJ imo.

Hand 3 the raise commits you again and I'm not sure of another line to take. There's probably an argument for flatting and folding to a good size bet on turn or lead bluffing a club.

yegon 11-14-2007 12:30 PM

Re: NL50 - QQ taking heat
 
anyone?

JimboNYY24 11-14-2007 02:11 PM

Re: NL50 - QQ taking heat
 
I think folding in hand 1 is terrible. I think his range is so heavily weighted towards a jack and maybe even mid pocket pairs that he thinks are good against your AK. You have to at least call here I think, and reevaluate turn.

Hand 2- I guess thats fine, I like just calling the bet though. I don't think you can fold after your raise.

Hand 3- I wouldn't fold. Nice suckout.

I think you'd get more responses from players far better than I if you posted your hands one at a time. Most posters just go tl/dr and on to the next post. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

yegon 11-14-2007 02:50 PM

Re: NL50 - QQ taking heat
 
hand 1: what is a range you give him when he calls the pf 3bet. I give him JJ+, AK without previous reads. Too tight?

hand 2: I am beat like 90% of the time when he pushes. Do I really have to call?


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