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ieee754 11-01-2007 11:39 AM

NL25 JJ in BB BTN 4bets AI
 
Hello,

pretty new to the table, so no real reads or stats.

With all the money allready in the pot I was willing to flip.

Easy call/fold ?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($24.80)
Button ($15.25)
SB ($24.75)
Hero ($27.80)
UTG ($24.65)
MP ($14.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15.25</font>, Hero calls $11.75.

Flop: ($30.60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($30.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($30.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $30.60


Thanks

Bigka79 11-01-2007 11:41 AM

Re: NL25 JJ in BB BTN 4bets AI
 
with no reads or stats what made uthink this is a flip. he could easily have a higher pair (prolly QQ). i think i can find a fold til i get reads and know what hes capable of doing this with

ieee754 11-01-2007 11:46 AM

Re: NL25 JJ in BB BTN 4bets AI
 
I didnt think his whole range consisted only of higher pp.

He may also do this with AK.

Just stoved it:

421,226,784 games 0.005 secs 84,245,356,800 games/sec

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.771% 55.40% 01.37% 233355456 5780460.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 43.229% 41.86% 01.37% 176310408 5780460.00 { JJ }

Do you guys think the assumed range is correct?

Profish2285 11-01-2007 11:50 AM

Re: NL25 JJ in BB BTN 4bets AI
 
Fold pf, I dont think TT is in his range for a 4 bet at these limits. Im not even sure AK fits in there in an unknowns range. I see so few 4 bets at these limits that its pretty much exclusively AA and KK unless you have stats or reads that say otherwise.

Edit: whoops didnt see how short he was, I probably get it in here then as you can definitely include TT and AK, possibly even 99.

JoseRijo 11-01-2007 11:52 AM

Re: NL25 JJ in BB BTN 4bets AI
 
Yeah, I probably gambol versus a short-stacking button-raiser. I think your range is worst-case scenario.


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