Half Stack open-shoves Turn
 

Must be the hot new move to try out on chubby old guys.

NL$100
BB has $50 (Hero covers)
Hero raises to $4 from MP with XX
BB calls (pot $8)
Flop comes K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks
Hero bets $7
BB calls (pot $22)
Turn comes 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB instashoves for $39

What is Villain's likely range?
What is your calling range?
Are you folding any King here?
Would you consider calling with QQ/JJ?


I've gotten the Turn open-shoved on me several times recently, and I'm not sure what to do. Thanks.

Re: Half Stack open-shoves Turn
 

I see this a lot too and every time I have called this month it has been a draw.

Re: Half Stack open-shoves Turn
 

i snapcall qq

sometimes its not a bluff apparently...

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ofishstix [Kd Qd]
NNICOLAS: folds
ofishstix: raises $4 to $6
mightyboossh: folds
PrnceImrahil: folds
gkdo1: calls $5
evgis: folds
*** FLOP *** [6d 9d 4d]
gkdo1: bets $14
ofishstix: calls $14
*** TURN *** [6d 9d 4d] [3h]
gkdo1: bets $79.30 and is all-in
ofishstix: calls $79.30
*** RIVER *** [6d 9d 4d 3h] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gkdo1: shows [Ad 3d] (a flush, Ace high)

Re: Half Stack open-shoves Turn
 

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I see this a lot too and every time I have called this month it has been a draw.

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QFT

Re: Half Stack open-shoves Turn
 

second pair top kicker+

Re: Half Stack open-shoves Turn
 

yah, it is v. often second or bottom pair in addition to the draws.

Re: Half Stack open-shoves Turn
 

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I see this a lot too and every time I have called this month it has been a draw.

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Hand in question I wussed out and folded J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


Another similar hand I called with AT on an AQxx board and Villain had bottom pair + FD (which he proceeded to hit, of course). At the time, I snapcalled without much thought. Later, I wondered if I was really ahead of his range (even though I happened to be ahead this one time).

Re: Half Stack open-shoves Turn
 

Im calling with Tx+ probably, Axh, straightflushdraws etc

I def would have called with JJ though.

edit: thats probably a lie, icall with more than that, not sure exactly how wide, usually depends on push timing. Im not sure i fold 99 here, and have been known to call with Ahi/any pair [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Half Stack open-shoves Turn
 

Basically when I see this line I'm thinking "He wants a fold" so I call pretty liberally.