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Boquense 12-01-2007 03:18 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
I think it's more unlikely that you have AA if he does.

mustmuck 12-01-2007 03:18 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
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Isn't 77-TT the majority of your range here? Especially with the flop/turn combo.

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probably. so does that mean i should call or fold? i can also have hands like AA here, fwiw.

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I think that's the core question here. I guess the simplistic answer is that MTBlue is applying Zebo and expects you to call. Certainly the push wouldn't make me think he's bluffing more often, as it's an obvious spot to value push rather than bet smaller.

TheWorstPlayer 12-01-2007 03:19 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
aight - so i guess you all think i should fold...

Donkey-Milker 12-01-2007 03:33 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
i doubt he has the case J or a Q.... ruling out AA and KK too as he would bet the turn. i call.

blankoblanco 12-01-2007 03:38 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
you called and snapped off a bluff, nh. i'd still probably fold though

Dan Terra 12-01-2007 03:43 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
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i doubt he has the case J or a Q.... ruling out AA and KK too as he would bet the turn.

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uhhhhh lol?

Bullitos 12-01-2007 03:45 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
I don't know about 3bettings history between you and villain, but pushing this flop makes the hand easier to play and may get him to shut down vs. you in the future. Since he has the threat of facing tough decisions in a 3bet pot with you.

MTBlue 12-01-2007 03:48 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
I push my whole range on this river. That being said its probably a fold.

Triumph36 12-01-2007 03:49 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
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I push my whole range on this river. That being said its probably a fold.

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does not compute

also i think that's a terrible river to push your whole range esp against villain

TheWorstPlayer 12-01-2007 03:53 PM

Re: He knows I know he knows (5/10 vs MTBlue)
 
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I push my whole range on this river. That being said its probably a fold.

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does not compute

also i think that's a terrible river to push your whole range esp against villain

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agree. you should only be pushing 99+ since you know i never fold.


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