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Dimitzu 11-22-2007 12:55 PM

11$, Am I missing value here?
 
Should I be just pushing the river?

Villain`s preflop raise-check flop-coldcall turn play seems really strong to me so I put him on AA, TT or big draw like KdQd or QdJd.
I thought checking gives villain a change to bluff with missed hands.

How is preflop? My standard is to fold here but I`m trying to loosen up my early game play even thought looking at this call now I`m pretty sure it`s bad.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is $60 (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($1850)</font>
UTG ($2150)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($2080)</font>
MP1 ($4200)
MP2 ($1680)
MP3 ($2060)
CO ($1710)
Button ($2180)
SB ($2090)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $180</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls $180, Button folds, SB calls $150, Hero calls $120.

Flop: ($720) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($720) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $540</font>, UTG+1 calls $540, CO folds, SB folds.

River: ($1920) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $420</font>, Hero calls $420.

Draidin 11-22-2007 01:40 PM

Re: 11$, Am I missing value here?
 
PF call ok with you being the one closing the action and the pot is multi-way.
Flop action is good.
Dont raise the turn. you only have a draw and its early in the game. You cant really bluff or even semi-bluff a multi-way pot.

Scotty_12 11-22-2007 01:56 PM

Re: 11$, Am I missing value here?
 
He has the nuts on the turn

Bedz 11-22-2007 01:57 PM

Re: 11$, Am I missing value here?
 
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Dont raise the turn. you only have a draw and its early in the game. You cant really bluff or even semi-bluff a multi-way pot.

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He hit the straight on the turn and was up agains 4 opponets, so I think a value raise is totaly in order

mosdef 11-22-2007 01:59 PM

Re: 11$, Am I missing value here?
 
Am I crazy - this looks way too loose preflop for a STT to me (but I'm out of practice).

Bedz 11-22-2007 02:01 PM

Re: 11$, Am I missing value here?
 
And also, I push the river. There are a lot of hands that are calling that you have beat at the river.

DetroitHustle 11-22-2007 02:14 PM

Re: 11$, Am I missing value here?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Am I crazy - this looks way too loose preflop for a STT to me (but I'm out of practice).

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he's closing the action and getting almost 6:1 on the call preflop. with the pot being multiway this is a good spot for SC imo. as long as we know what were playing for post flop (2pr+)

on the actual hand i probally play it the same as you did , i always get scurred when the board pairs the river.
even though i'd play it that way im sure raising/shoving river is fine/better too.

sippin_criss 11-22-2007 02:28 PM

Re: 11$, Am I missing value here?
 
I INSTA shove the river and then I raise the roof and do a triple chair spin.


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