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davebreal 11-03-2007 08:12 PM

$15/$30 6 Max
 
most likely misplayed on all streets. no reads on any players, so i'm assuming they are average players. raise the river to promote my marginal 2 way hand?

$15/$30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$4554.50</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$1191.00</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$2444.00</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$657.00</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$600.00</font>)

Pre-flop: ($45, 5 players) Hero is BB 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls $30, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $60</font>, BTN calls $60, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $30, UTG calls $30

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($255, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $30</font>, BTN calls $30, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $60</font>, <font color="#777777">UTG folds</font>, CO calls $30, BTN calls $30

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($435, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($435, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">BTN bets $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $120</font>, <font color="#777777">CO folds</font>, BTN calls $60

Final Pot: $675

Buzz 11-03-2007 10:07 PM

Re: $15/$30 6 Max
 
Hi Dave - I think you should bet the turn. The 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] isn't likely to help anybody much for high, so that if nobody had the straight after the flop (as it seems), then probably nobody made a straight after the turn.

If you bet the turn, you somewhat disguise your top two pairs. You might also knock out a better low and a diamond draw.

Buzz

WMB 11-04-2007 05:44 PM

Re: $15/$30 6 Max
 
I'm not crazy about the river raise here, I'd like a few notches better in both directions given the pot size. It seems to easy for button to have you slightly beat both ways.

Shabamabam 11-04-2007 10:50 PM

Re: $15/$30 6 Max
 
I prefer just to fold the flop.

As played, I love your river line. I think it's the best way to make any money here.

TxRedMan 11-04-2007 11:31 PM

Re: $15/$30 6 Max
 
i think the reason this hand hasn't gotten many responses is because its a very difficult hand and tbh i'm still considering it before i respond, but im debating every street, especially the turn check which i think i hate given your flop/river line.

still thinking about it though.


-tex

davebreal 11-05-2007 12:11 AM

Re: $15/$30 6 Max
 
[ QUOTE ]
I prefer just to fold the flop.

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that sounds a little crazy to me... looking back at the hand my turn check is especially bad though

donger 11-05-2007 01:43 AM

Re: $15/$30 6 Max
 
The river line is really weird. It seems like you pussed out at first, but then backed into the promo idea when button bet instead of CO. I think it's hard for CO to think button has a good low after he checks the turn last to act. Your river CR has to look fishy because you can't reasonably expect either player to bet after the turn action.

So are you trying to get CO to fold something like A4? or what?

I'm thoroughly confused.

EDIT: woohoo carpal tunnel. it only took me 3 years.

ipp147 11-05-2007 08:04 AM

Re: $15/$30 6 Max
 
My ability to hand read at this game sucks bad...can someone please give me a hand range or likely hand for button.

If he has an A2 he should bet the turn. A made straight should be betting the turn.

I can only understand the turn check if he has something like a set or maybe A365 or something?

Shabamabam 11-05-2007 01:20 PM

Re: $15/$30 6 Max
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I prefer just to fold the flop.

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that sounds a little crazy to me... looking back at the hand my turn check is especially bad though

[/ QUOTE ]

Why is it so crazy? Just about any card on the turn puts you in a tough spot where you can lose quite a bit especially with people squeeze jamming with lows trying to be heroes.

jlocdog 11-05-2007 02:44 PM

Re: $15/$30 6 Max
 
Quick question for those advocating a turn bet....are you calling a raise and c/c the river? Folding to any turn heat? c/f the river? Appreciate it.

I actually like the way this hand was played.


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