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moldman 11-20-2007 02:04 PM

NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
Villain is a 57/5/0.6 gem. Unfortunately, he had doubled up on me on this hand a couple orbits ago:

BTN: $103.50
SB: $99
BB: $319.45
UTG: $189
UTG+1: $259.55
Hero (MP1): $476.05
MP2: $446.70
CO: $77.10

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP1)
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($22) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $34</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $99</font>, SB calls $56 and is All-In

Turn: ($202) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($202) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $202 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Nines) and WON $199 (+$100 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$99 NET)

So, here is the hand at question:

SB: $39
BB: $187
UTG: $233.35
UTG+1: $253.20
MP1: $228.25
Hero (MP2): $403.15
CO: $328
BTN: $87.85

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $7, UTG calls $7

Flop: ($28) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($28) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $24</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to ??

GrandMelon 11-20-2007 02:06 PM

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
81

AllTheCheese 11-20-2007 02:07 PM

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
$72.

dobieatwar 11-20-2007 02:09 PM

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
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$72.

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MNSUgoMAVS! 11-20-2007 02:15 PM

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
I think I would normally go a little larger than 72, can someone explain to me why this would be wrong?

rdrr 11-20-2007 02:17 PM

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
ALL YOU CAN EAT BABY!!

ahem. I mean.. $80

moldman 11-20-2007 02:20 PM

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
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I think I would normally go a little larger than 72, can someone explain to me why this would be wrong?

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The idea in my mind is to bet large enough he'll call with whatever junk he has and to price out whatever draw he might be on, whether it be two pair, straight outs to split, etc.

CalledDownLight 11-20-2007 02:22 PM

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
$66

MNSUgoMAVS! 11-20-2007 02:38 PM

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
Huh, maybe it's just bc I play on Bodog and will get instacalled by any 2 pair and most flush draws, maybe even some straight draws.

livestream 11-20-2007 02:40 PM

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 
You should raise preflop to 5.5BB instead of 4.5BB. Cts explain this at his first cardrunner vid.

72 over 66


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