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SILLYGOOSER 07-20-2007 07:48 AM

What do you do in this situation?
 
6 handed

You are the first person to act (to the left of big blind) with ace nine suited...

How often do you raise/call/fold?

Assume this is your typical table with people who might reraise preflop sometimes and those who like to call or fold.

Hattifnatt 07-20-2007 07:56 AM

Re: What do you do in this situation?
 
something like 95% raise, 5% fold.

GoldenIP 07-20-2007 08:15 AM

Re: What do you do in this situation?
 
I gotta disagree with Hatti

UTG A9s is sorta junky especially if you're 3-bet and/or if an A falls on the flop. You're either way ahead in which case you don't get paid off too often or you're way behind and unless you've got good discipline to regularly fold A9s having made top pair, well, it's junk. I just think that if you're forced to make a decision, OOP, with A9, you shouldn't have put yourself in that position in the first place.

It's not in my range for UTG unless specific situations, image etc suggest otherwise.

Plug that leak you silly goose! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

bigbabyjesus 07-20-2007 08:16 AM

Re: What do you do in this situation?
 
big winner baby!

GoldenIP 07-20-2007 08:17 AM

Re: What do you do in this situation?
 
Moreover, I'd rather raise with A2s or A5s UTG cause it's easier to get away from if an A falls and/or 3-bet PF. And, of course you've got the benefit of 2 potential draws coming your way.

Having said that, I still think anything worse than AJo is junky UTG when talking specifically about Ax hands.

bigbabyjesus 07-20-2007 08:20 AM

Re: What do you do in this situation?
 
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Moreover, I'd rather raise with A2s or A5s UTG cause it's easier to get away from if an A falls and/or 3-bet PF. And, of course you've got the benefit of 2 potential draws coming your way.

Having said that, I still think anything worse than AJo is junky UTG when talking specifically about Ax hands.

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a9 whatever is so sick easy to get away from top pair if raised utg

GoldenIP 07-20-2007 08:26 AM

Re: What do you do in this situation?
 
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Moreover, I'd rather raise with A2s or A5s UTG cause it's easier to get away from if an A falls and/or 3-bet PF. And, of course you've got the benefit of 2 potential draws coming your way.

Having said that, I still think anything worse than AJo is junky UTG when talking specifically about Ax hands.

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a9 whatever is so sick easy to get away from top pair if raised utg

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I absolutely agree. I should have made it more clear that if you've (made the mistake) of commiting yourself PF with A9s, if an A falls on the flop, then it becomes more problematic for a lot of players to get away from.

"Oh, well I've already put this much in, I may aswell try and get lucky and look this guy up" having faced a flop raise etc.

If you can't fold A9s PF to a CO/BTN raise, ----> $1/2NL

paulnic 07-20-2007 08:27 AM

Re: What do you do in this situation?
 
this table description is a bit vague imo. however depending on my image i would probs fold 70% and raise 30% also very dependent on sizes of various stacks... i'm not a big fan of playing these sorts of hands oop, very often u will get a mp player calling with something like AQ\AJ and your pretty much dominated. A9 utg has got to be -ev in most games imo

captainwacky 07-20-2007 08:32 AM

Re: What do you do in this situation?
 
if you can't profitably open a9s utg, you're not beating your game well enough, I think.

punter11235 07-20-2007 08:38 AM

Re: What do you do in this situation?
 
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if you can't profitably open a9s utg, you're not beating your game well enough, I think.

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Suppose you are playing vs 5 players of this common type :
They repop you with any pp and AQ/AK.

Now the chances that you will got repopped are about 66% and you sure as hell better fold vs that.
So now you will get your blinds 2 times which is 3BB and you will lost your raise which is say 3.5BB.

You lose.

SOoooo its not that simple as in quoted sentence.


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