QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

Villain is 32/26 over 50 hands
Full Tilt Poker Game #4164641501: Table Broadway (6 max) - $25/$50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:40:03 ET - 2007/11/13
Seat 1: Boosted J ($5,000)
Seat 2: Semifaded ($925)
Seat 3: Ramblin_22 ($856)
Seat 4: HH ($6,456)
Seat 5: Nervousbob ($6,594)
Seat 6: OMGClayAiken ($5,988)

HH posts the small blind of $25
Nervousbob posts the big blind of $50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HH [Qh Qs]
OMGClayAiken raises to $175
Boosted J folds
Semifaded folds
Ramblin_22 folds
aLasMan106 (Observer): U HAVE UR OWN CHARACTER THATS KOOL MAN
HH raises to $600
Nervousbob has 15 seconds left to act
Semifaded has been disconnected
Nervousbob raises to $6,594, and is all in
Semifaded has reconnected
OMGClayAiken folds

Is this a call? Problem is, that original raiser was UTG,


2. Villain was on the tight side over our 20 hands
Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $25/$50
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $4900
Button: $5389
SB: $3384
BB: $7313

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $170</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($390, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $320</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $980</font>

Re: QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

1. depends whether you like flippin in big pots

2. great flop for your hand - I'd put it in!

Re: QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

h1 u have a bad sample dude is a nit, easy fold

Re: QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

hand 2 is an EASY shove

Re: QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

RECALLME

Re: QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

It~s bad luck that i have a such a sample, but given this sample, is it a call?

Lots of Villains would call the 3bet and hope that orig. raiser comes along with KK+.

I shoved, V had Nut draw

Re: QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

hand 1 is a fold.

hand 2 i would call or shove.

Re: QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

recallme at 25/50...and has never given advice ever

most impressive climbing through the ranks on 2p2 this way

Re: QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

I'd probably just fold both.

Re: QQ gets cold 4bet / Shove or fold the draw
 

I am curious why ppl think hand2 is an easy shove. Vs calling range owns us badly and we dont fold hands we want to fold like ever.