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mvoss 09-06-2007 10:52 AM

TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
UTG is very tough semi-LAG/TAG, one of the best posters in this forum.

CO is 52/19 overaggro showdown monkey. He has been running fairly well though with some of his retarded plays.

OTB is 26/18, no reads.

My own image is probably not great, I've been running kinda bad and haven't entered a lot of pots. When in a pot I've usually been the aggressor preflop but ended up playing fairly passive postflop and probably made a bad river call or two.

Yes I know I could have found a better table, and looking at it now, I'm not entirely sure why I sat there.

What's your flop/turn line in this hand?

Party Poker (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="red">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">MP folds</font>, CO calls, OTB calls, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">BB folds</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, OBT calls.

Flop (13SB): 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="red">CO raises</font>, OTB calls...

Also, does it make a difference how capable of folding UTG is?

Gurravasa 09-06-2007 11:06 AM

Re: TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
easy raise for me, limit the field if you can, a 2+2:er always tries to peel flops with overs and is likely to fold for 2SB. I would raise even if UTG never would fold since I believe our hand is strong due to pf-action.

KitCloudkicker 09-06-2007 11:08 AM

Re: TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
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mvoss 09-06-2007 11:13 AM

Re: TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
And why?

Apanage 09-06-2007 11:27 AM

Re: TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
I donīt reraise preflop for reasons stated in earlier threads. Three aggressive players hack you to pieces postflop when you reraise and donīt hit a set.
I know I get hammered as usual for having that opinion so be my guest.
As played I go into call mode on flop and the fold button is starting to look big and red like it wants to be pushed.
Buttons cold call is awful for us.Our only hope is that he hasnīt got what his cold call says.

jakbse 09-06-2007 11:29 AM

Re: TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
3 or 4 players to the turn, not much of a difference. I would call and try to check raise a non scary turn.

mvoss 09-06-2007 11:33 AM

Re: TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I donīt reraise preflop for reasons stated in earlier threads. Three aggressive players hack you to pieces postflop when you reraise and donīt hit a set.
I know I get hammered as usual for having that opinion so be my guest.
As played I go into call mode on flop and the fold button is starting to look big and red like it wants to be pushed.
Buttons cold call is awful for us.Our only hope is that he hasnīt got what his cold call says.

[/ QUOTE ]
I asked this question in the other thread but never got an answer: What hands are you reraising here preflop?

Guy McSucker 09-06-2007 11:35 AM

Re: TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
[ QUOTE ]
UTG is very tough semi-LAG/TAG, one of the best posters in this forum.


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Oink?

I am worried about the button given his TAGgy stats but let's face it, he's coldcalled twice in this hand already so perhaps I shouldn't be.

The pot is too big for you to get UTG's likely overcards to fold by threebetting. He's going to have backdoor bits and pieces as well so he's seeing fourth street, no doubt.

I would think this could be "wait for a safe turn" time, except that there aren't any safe turn cards really. I am sure we have too much hand to fold unless there's heavy action and the board gets nastier, but I'm worried about our equity - not sure it's better than fair-share - and I don't see that we can protect our hand, so I think I just try to get this one to showdown.

ZOMG_RIGGED! 09-06-2007 11:36 AM

Re: TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
[ QUOTE ]
3 or 4 players to the turn, not much of a difference. I would call and try to check raise a non scary turn.

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And what is a non-scary turn? by my count A,K,Q,J,8,7,6,5,4,3
are all scary cards. So we're basically looking for a T,9, or duece?

Oink 09-06-2007 11:46 AM

Re: TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?
 
Michael you know what I think.

3-bet.

UTG will be faced with 7.5:1 if you 3-bet. No way in hell anyone should be calling with overcards getting those odds not closing the action with a LAG behind and the button coldcalling 2 on that board.

Edit: And you have good eq


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