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jk3a 11-14-2007 03:38 PM

FGators School
 
Villain is 21/8/2 thru 100 hands.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $90
SB: $204.30
BB: $227.40
Hero (UTG): $239
MP: $316.95
CO: $186.55

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP folds, CO calls $8, BTN calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($27) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $19</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $19

Turn: ($65) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20

River: ($105) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $43 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

sightless 11-14-2007 03:40 PM

Re: FGators School
 
I bet like 45 on turn and call a shove probably.
as played i probably crai on the turn
as played i call river

edit: yeah after you bet 45 dont fold O_O

thac 11-14-2007 03:41 PM

Re: FGators School
 
I'd probably just shove the turn.. or shove after he bets so small.

stickdude 11-14-2007 03:47 PM

Re: FGators School
 
[ QUOTE ]
I bet like 45 on turn and call a shove probably.
as played i probably crai on the turn
as played i call river

[/ QUOTE ]

Villain only has $63 behind on the turn - you mean "call a shove always" after betting $45, right? In cases like that where they have less than PSB left, I usually just go ahead and put them in if I'm calling a shove.

I agree with the rest.

Casper05 11-14-2007 03:49 PM

Re: FGators School
 
SHOVE river

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HAND #1
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Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $100.50
BB: $123.45
UTG: $121.65
Hero (BTN): $515.50

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, SB folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6

Turn: ($19.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, BB calls $15

River: ($49.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $35</font>, BB calls $35

Results: $119.50 Pot ($2 Rake)
BB mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$59.50 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON $117.50 (+$58 NET)




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HAND #2
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Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $26.30
CO: $102.15
BTN: $100
SB: $127.25
Hero (BB): $285.90

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.50</font>, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $23</font>, SB calls $16

Turn: ($53) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $35</font>, SB calls $35

River: ($123) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $224.40 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $65.75 and is All-In

Results: $254.50 Pot ($254.50 Rake)
SB mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$127.25 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Jacks) and LOST (-$127.25 NET)

jk3a 11-14-2007 03:51 PM

Re: FGators School
 
May just be me, but we only bet A9/65/A2s-A6s/T9 and lose to a ton of other hands. I know he's short, but is that really a large enough portion of his range to get the money in here.

This type is rarely 3betting AK/AQ, those two hands alone make up 16 combos.

happyhour456 11-14-2007 03:51 PM

Re: FGators School
 
I bet flop 22(maybe more, because of 2 opponents),
I check/call turn for potcontrol,
I fold river as played.

Imo Villain calls suited connectors or pocketpairs in position. So I think he almost always has a boat or trips in this spot.

happyhour456 11-14-2007 03:53 PM

Re: FGators School
 
OK SORRY!
I bet every street for value against this villain(stack).

happyhour456 11-14-2007 03:54 PM

Re: FGators School
 
Casper05, I think your hands were a different situation.

Chicago Twister 11-14-2007 03:56 PM

Re: FGators School
 
Commitment threshold FTW. You were getting practically the same odds on the turn &amp; river, and yet you folded? Surely the size of the bet isn't affecting your decision here?


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