$200 nl squeeze with AK
 

Well I was hoping to take pot down PF, or Isolate MP1, instead i'm heads up vs relative short stack. So I guess i'm wondering, this flop bet prices me in..If i bet $40 into here as a cbet, do you fold to push ? Should I check fold this flop ? Just seems like such a weak line, I don't like leaving chips out there after representing strength PF. No real reads, only played one orbit.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($58.80)
Button ($175)
SB ($206.25)
Hero ($198)
UTG ($350.15)
UTG+1 ($105.05)
MP1 ($208.20)
MP2 ($203)
MP3 ($109.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $8</font>, MP1 calls $8, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $26</font>, UTG+1 calls $18, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($61) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $52</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $79.05</font>, Hero calls $27.05.

Re: $200 nl squeeze with AK
 

raise more preflop

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raise more preflop

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How much ? $35-$40 to go ? More ?

Re: $200 nl squeeze with AK
 

A good default raise size would be 4x the intial raiser plus one for each caller when out of position. SO here $8x4 =$32 + $8 caller, so $40 total. If you're squeezing from LP than 3x + each caller since you have position.

But I would just call with AK here since the opener was in EP and we are too deep and a whiffed flop CB will consume too much of my stack and no one ever folds ever when opening in EP and getting reraised.

Re: $200 nl squeeze with AK
 

i wouldn't call that raise on the flop.

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i wouldn't call that raise on the flop.

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Phil Gordon would not call that raise preflop. According to Gordon's table for average table openings the only hand you are beating is AQs and drawing with AKo though marginally behind to AKs (as it will get free roll opportunities).

The above has not factored in that there is a caller. Your raise seems really wild since you do not know anything about the original raiser. Surely, this reraise of yours is not positive expected value. I am surprised that no-one sees it as I am seeing it.

I am a newbie to this particular subforum so go gently with me. If there are longstanding contributors who know better then please educate me. No offence was intended to original poster or anyone else. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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raise more preflop

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how much more, it's already 3x the initial PF raise...make it the standard 3.5x? that's only 2-3 dollars more..

Re: $200 nl squeeze with AK
 

make it 35ish preflop. Flop is standard.

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i wouldn't call that raise on the flop.

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its an incredibly easy call.

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i wouldn't call that raise on the flop.

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Phil Gordon would not call that raise preflop. According to Gordon's table for average table openings the only hand you are beating is AQs and drawing with AKo though marginally behind to AKs (as it will get free roll opportunities).

The above has not factored in that there is a caller. Your raise seems really wild since you do not know anything about the original raiser. Surely, this reraise of yours is not positive expected value. I am surprised that no-one sees it as I am seeing it.

I am a newbie to this particular subforum so go gently with me. If there are longstanding contributors who know better then please educate me. No offence was intended to original poster or anyone else. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Oh come on, villian is a short stack and almost all shortstacks suck. Unless he was super tight and was only short due to having just lost half a stack, or something like that, then 3-bet a bit more PF and then just shove.