You need to show results before you get any respect.......
 

First time poster, long time lurker. I just wanted to share my picks and hopefully gain a following once i show some results. Thanks in advance for reading.

For saturday:
nevada -7 over utah st.
-----> nevada broke in a new quarterback last week and everything seemed to click on offense. utah st. 118th in nation in total offense.

wisconsin -23.5 over northern ill.
-----> coming off two devastating road losses to in-conference foes, the badgers get some home cooking in madison against an extremely overmatched huskies squad. they need the blowout and will get one here.

Under 41 fla. st -- miami
-----> game has gone under 4 straight years. is this play too obvious? probably. but if you've seen these two teams play then you will know that this is the correct side to be on.

Sunday:
no plays.

Again, thanks in advance for reading and i wish everyone the best of luck this weekend.

YTD 0-0

fidobuster.

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why do you want to gain a following?

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Thinking the same thing. I do this for money not the respect of some strangers online.

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You need a huge following if ya wanna go tout. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Winning handicappers tout? why?

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good luck, fido...

normally i'd fade this kind of post, except the 'respect' line threw me for a loop, and now i dunno...you could end up being this season's version of winning hundreds of cows, or i could be missing an opportunity to win by fading..

hmmm...

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Winning handicappers tout? why?

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Make more money.

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If someone is actually a winning handicapper then he shouldn't need tout money.

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Eh, it's not like he loses anything by going tout. Who can argue with making more money?

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I could return my empty wine and beer bottles and that would be more money but it isn't worth it.

Same applies for touting. I use to get cold calls from all the tout services in the 90s. Based on what they were pitching the money just isn't worth the trouble for anyone who is actually good at it.

The closest I have ever come to selling picks was a straight trade of my football and hockey picks for someone else's baseball. I did that for 2 years. I don't even share picks with my friends.

If someone is willing to sell picks for $500-2000 a season then I wouldn't trust them since he obviously needs the money so probably isn't that well established.

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I don't even share picks with my friends.

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Sound like a great guy...

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Henry are you serious? Why do successfull stockbrockers manage money? Why don't they sit home and crush it in their own accounts? They want to reduce variance, get some gauranteed income and this does not mean they can't be profitable on their own.

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The stockbroker analogy isn't accurate. The amount of money managed is sufficiently large that taking a percentage for managing it is significant. That is not true for selling picks.

Reducing Variance is great and it almost makes it sound legitimate until you think about it. Given what the avg tout service charges the total revenue from selling picks vs what I'd expect someone to be wagering the effect on their variance would be insignificant. If it is significant then they must be making fairly small personal wagers and I'd question why they are so conservative with their own money yet feel comfortable selling their picks.

The only way I'd agree with your points is if we are talking about someone who either charges a very significant amount per season or someone who sells thousands of packages.

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Sound like a great guy...

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Wealth is relative. If everyone had a million then being a millionaire wouldn't be special.

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The stockbroker analogy isn't accurate. The amount of money managed is sufficiently large that taking a percentage for managing it is significant. That is not true for selling picks.

Reducing Variance is great and it almost makes it sound legitimate until you think about it. Given what the avg tout service charges the total revenue from selling picks vs what I'd expect someone to be wagering the effect on their variance would be insignificant. If it is significant then they must be making fairly small personal wagers and I'd question why they are so conservative with their own money yet feel comfortable selling their picks.

The only way I'd agree with your points is if we are talking about someone who either charges a very significant amount per season or someone who sells thousands of packages.

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I don't even share picks with my friends.

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Sound like a great guy...

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Wealth is relative. If everyone had a million then being a millionaire wouldn't be special.

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So you dont want your friends to win money, just yourself? Pretty sad life you must lead.

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So you dont want your friends to win money, just yourself? Pretty sad life you must lead.

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I'm actually completely neutral to my friend's financial situation. Giving them picks though has plenty of downside and no upside.

1) If I tell some I have to tell all. The drama that would result from sharing picks with a subset of friends would in the end lose me friends.

2) I've been doing this for over a decade. They haven't. The possibility for them to do something stupid with respect to money management is too great. I don't want to be responsible for that.

3) In the end if one person does all the work, brings all the skill and basically is 100% responsible for the outcome but shares the spoils with others he'll grow to resent the freeloaders. I don't want to grow to resent my friends.

4) I already have enough people who hang around me because I keep an open tab at my table and know a lot of attractive girls. If I start to give away free picks then I'm just increasing the number of users who will come around and also the uncertainty factor with respect to any new people I meet.

5) It decreases the value of my relative financial position if I increase theirs.

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LOL

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I'm actually completely neutral to my friend's financial situation. Giving them picks though has plenty of downside and no upside.

1) If I tell some I have to tell all. The drama that would result from sharing picks with a subset of friends would in the end lose me friends.

2) I've been doing this for over a decade. They haven't. The possibility for them to do something stupid with respect to money management is too great. I don't want to be responsible for that.

3) In the end if one person does all the work, brings all the skill and basically is 100% responsible for the outcome but shares the spoils with others he'll grow to resent the freeloaders. I don't want to grow to resent my friends.

4) I already have enough people who hang around me because I keep an open tab at my table and know a lot of attractive girls. If I start to give away free picks then I'm just increasing the number of users who will come around and also the uncertainty factor with respect to any new people I meet.

5) It decreases the value of my relative financial position if I increase theirs.

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I couldnt imagine carrying so much about money. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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1) No.
2) Agreed.
3) True.
4) Fine.
5) Uber-lame. Get poor friends, LDO.

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Henry,

Can I have an application to be your friend? You sound like a real party animal/great guy.