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Hobbs. 10-21-2007 06:44 PM

raise/fold
 
BB is tightish tag but doesn't really play a role here. SB is loose passive calling station type that has shown a willingness to raise against me but I've yet to go to SD when he has.

Full Tilt Poker $10/$20 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>

Planning on folding to a 3-bet.

We cool with this? Call down from turn instead?

jba 10-21-2007 06:53 PM

Re: raise/fold
 
seems pretty thin, I'd want to be pretty comfortable that he wont 3bet worse 2 pair here.

gehrig 10-21-2007 06:54 PM

Re: raise/fold
 
dont think u can trust an idiot to not have a worse two pair

u shouldnt raise after turn cr lots of combos of straights

Hobbs. 10-21-2007 06:57 PM

Re: raise/fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
dont think u can trust an idiot to not have a worse two pair

u shouldnt raise after turn cr lots of combos of straights

[/ QUOTE ]
yeah I def didn't want to 3-bet the turn has I'd be forced into calling a 4-bet and likely would payoff the river. I'd like 4 bets to go in here between the turn and the river. If 5 go in I'm [censored] so I thought the best way was by raising the river. That being said I think you're probably right about just going to SD after the turn raise as this guy can show up with all combos of the straights out there.

NinaWilliams 10-22-2007 01:21 AM

Re: raise/fold
 
Do we even have enough equity to raise this?

efficacy 10-22-2007 01:46 AM

Re: raise/fold
 
33.333% { As9d }
66.667% { AQs-AJs, A9s, KTs, QJs, Q9s, J9s, T8s, AQo-AJo, A9o, KTo, QJo, Q9o, J9o, T8o }

Even if you don't include AJ and AQ, we are still below 50%

bobhalford 10-22-2007 02:01 AM

Re: raise/fold
 
If he has AK or QJ/J9, he must figure you for AQ or AJ and therefore would fear check-raising the turn with two others in the hand.

Although he doesn't 3-bet the river without KT, I figure I'm behind here too often to risk wasting a bet on the river, even if I plan on folding to a 3-bet.

Heisenb3rg 10-22-2007 05:29 AM

Re: raise/fold
 
bleh, dont raise anywhere... Too many straights vs two pair hands...
His lack of a PF reraise means you haev to discount AQ, his lack of a flop raise means you have to discount J9.

It looks like QJ/QT/KT or T8 most likely..
U are crushed against this range.


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