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plzbenice 11-17-2007 12:42 PM

JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
villain is loose and very aggro, think but im not sure that i have seen him play 10/20 before or maybe that was someone else with a similar name.

he seems to like to raise continuation bets, especially on K-high boards, i had a feeling a raise was coming before i bet bet the flop.
in another hand later he raised a cbet from another player on a Kxx, all hearts board and lost to KQ in a showdown, dont know what he had.
should i genreally check to this type of player? if he raises too often obv i want that and shouldnt.

but how to avoid going broke here and pick him off when he is FOS?


Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 1/2

Players(max 6):
Villain (EUR 472.15 in seat 1)
V1 (EUR 514.15 in seat 2)
V2 (EUR 256.85 in seat 3)
V3 (EUR 200.00 in seat 4)
Hero (EUR 195.37 in seat 5)
V4 (EUR 179.60 in seat 6)

Dealer: RUMIK
Small Blind: V1 (1.00)
Big Blind: V2 (2.00)

Hero was dealt: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] - J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero Raise (6.50)
V4 Fold
Villain Call (6.50)
V1 Fold
V2 Fold
V3 Fold

Flop K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] - T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] - 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero Bet (12.00)
Villain Raise (38.00)
Hero?


what is the best line here? i did not know here but later saw him raise 66 pre, then betw eak with a flopped set on aflushdrawboard but otherways dry flop then c/r allin on the turn.

not enough info to really deduct how he plays but the type to be aggro with air/draws and slower with steel? if hes god i guess not though and 2 hands doesnt say anythign anyway and i hadnt seen thsoe hands when i played this one anyway.

plzbenice 11-17-2007 12:48 PM

Re: JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
tried ti change names think i messed up whos the btn etc but villain is CO and i am utg and the rest is irrelevant anyway.

Moemar 11-17-2007 01:03 PM

Re: JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
From what you have seen of him, he is probably just messing with you. But, that is a pretty big raise...

Muck it, pick a better spot for your money. No need to push back with middle pair, wait until you at least have top pair

AlanDyer 11-17-2007 01:52 PM

Re: JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
i'd push, people raise here with a huge range, and folding 2nd pair [JJ at that] on a ragged flop like this is weak

Daddy Warbucks 11-17-2007 02:00 PM

Re: JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
You realise he only calls a push with hands that beat you right?

I think i fold. You're probably SA/WB here and not a spot you want to get all your money in on unless you have a much better read.

sebbb 11-17-2007 02:00 PM

Re: JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
Thing is you have no idea if he has a king or air. And if he is aggro, he won't let you get to showdown easily, and you have no way of improving your hand.

Also I don't think your hand is good enough to push

I think this hand shows the power of position.

I fold here, and wait for a spot to let him hang himself when I have a decent hand

spivey 11-17-2007 02:07 PM

Re: JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
Gotta fold. Personally don't hate a c/c on flop if you think he'll be playing back. This is a good flop to play back at, and there's not much you can do about it, being OOP.

sebbb 11-17-2007 02:55 PM

Re: JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
Hero takes a note on his play and implements it in his game

Grue 11-17-2007 03:36 PM

Re: JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
wow these responses are weak as hell vs this guy as described. call, crai on turn.

Requin 11-17-2007 03:41 PM

Re: JJ, cb gets raised by very aggro LAG
 
These are tough spots. Can he show up with TT/KT here? Or KQ? Is he raising bare low FDs (probably not). All good things to know here, tough when you don't. Sounds like he gave up before when he raised the K hi flop, so I don't mind a call and c/f turn. Very important to check when you see a play like that though, would be extremely useful to see what he had in the other hand. Depending on his vbetting range you can shove instead, if you have a good read that he doesn't raise KQ here and likely won't show up with TT/KT.

Btw normally I wouldn't be so concerned about KQ since it's rarely raised but this guy sounds a bit wild.


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