Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl live)
 

A 5-5 500 max NL game @ the bike. Villain that raised me on the turn (UTG) is not a bad player not an amazing player. She is pretty solid and fairly aggro, is able to get away from hands and does not seem capable of complex moves. The other villain in the hand is a very highly regarded pro playing while waiting for a seat in the bigger game. Probably the best regular NL player that plays at the bike. He is ussualy somewhere in between TAG and LAG but is capable of pretty much anything and is extremely smart. Comments on all streets please.

UTG (~1600)
SB (~900)
Hero BB (~1450)

UTG makes it 25 preflop folds to SB who calls and Hero calls in BB with 66 suits don't matter.

Flop (70)
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SB leades 45, Hero raises to 130, UTG calls, SB calls after posturing for a couple seconds.

Turn (460)
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SB checks, Hero bets 400, UTG raises to 900, SB mucks, Hero mucks.

Re: Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl li
 

Why can't this be QQ+?

edit: I'm not saying it's a bad fold. I'm just asking how do you think UTG would play QQ+ here.

Re: Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl li
 

If its QQ+ it is severely overplayed. Given the dynamics of live games in general I am representing a huge hand here.

Re: Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl live)
 

looks good to me. although i would bet less on the turn (300ish) to try and get max value from the UTG if she has an overpair, which is consistent with her play thus far.

Re: Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl li
 

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Why can't this be QQ+?

edit: I'm not saying it's a bad fold. I'm just asking how do you think UTG would play QQ+ here.

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a standard mediocre live player with QQ+ rarely raises in this spot from what ive seen. they usually just go into calldown mode after the flop action.

Re: Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl li
 

if you bet you probably have to fold. I like check/something.

Re: Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl li
 

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if you bet you probably have to fold. I like check/something.

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seems like that would be giving up a fair amount of value if she can't get away from an overpair no? I'm pretty sure checking will give up a lot of value when i'm ahead and make me go broke when i'm behind.. I obv won't get to showdown without being all in if she has JJ/99 and its fairly obvious SB gas a draw so if she checks behind thats not good either.

Re: Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl li
 

heyyy J9

Re: Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl live)
 

good fold. bad flop raise. bad turn bet, too, actually. i'd make it like 2/3 pot. you know what everyone has.

Re: Mucked a set on the turn on a no straight/no flush board (500nl li
 

Looks like a good fold.

Assuming this is 9 handed or more, J9 becomes much less likely, and I don't think she's raising the turn with an overpair.

Your line looks REALLL strong, and she doesn't seem to care, so you're probably beat.