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fair enough, just figured that these guys would be soo easy to play against.

there must be a stack size where calling here is fine though

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heads up/ 3handed 300bb + deep

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How do u come up with these numbers? And isnt the fact that it would be 3 handed point towards having less implied odds since we r less likely to run into strong hands?

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I really don't mind this at all.

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fair enough, just figured that these guys would be soo easy to play against.

there must be a stack size where calling here is fine though

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heads up/ 3handed 300bb + deep

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How do u come up with these numbers? And isnt the fact that it would be 3 handed point towards having less implied odds since we r less likely to run into strong hands?

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Implied odds dont rely solely on the fact that ur opposition have strong hands. It more depends on the quality of ur opposition, your position and how light they are gonna stack off vs you.

For instance if you are playing vs a uber nit and decide to setmine vs his utg raise, it does you no good if he wont stack off with an overpair. Obviously from this example we can see how this particular player can be exploited tho

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reads on SB and BB would help. What does BB cold call a 3-bet with? I find its usually TT/JJ type hands - as such I don't care for the flop bet.

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so i think if you want to play this profitably pre you have to bluff this flop

i think its ok if you have a good image...but you have to follow through

also, if they all have overs they are prolly blocking each other- i might check this one down

how do people feel about betting flops where we have a FD or str8 draw witht he 6 if there is the same action??

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I'm not jacked about preflop but w/e.

On the flop, I think you gotta check, its not for value and its a pretty weak semibluff 3 dirty weakish outs.

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the question is, are you betting the turn

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reads on SB and BB would help. What does BB cold call a 3-bet with? I find its usually TT/JJ type hands - as such I don't care for the flop bet.

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i gave reads, they're nits. AK is in his cold calling range imo

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the question is, are you betting the turn

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absolutely not

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The pfr is good obv. Calling the rr is clearly -EV unless the opponents are horrible. And no, it's not getting +EV at a certain stacksize because it's a junkhand. It's still more of a matter how bad your opponents are rather than how deep you are, but if you're deep vs horrible player sure there's a point where calling will be ok. Vs these opponents it excists no such point.

I like the flop bet if you think BB and utg is decent.