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jj12 11-21-2007 08:55 AM

bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
Villain is recently playing 16/10/3. However he used to play 25/14/3. And I've seen him make agro plays (bluffs and thin bets) as well as some tilty calls (he was getting stacked non-stop on all his tables). Right now he is playing well. On the turn he instadonks. I really think this is some kind of mid pair like 90% of the time which sees the 9 as a safe card and wants to protect. (there are like 6 combos of A9s 89s and 98s and a ton of combos of mid PP).

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $536
UTG+1: $1325.45
Hero: $1095
Button: $276.5
SB: $1000
BB: $1248

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $33</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($109, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $85</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($279, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $235</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $666</font>.

2hi4me2cu 11-21-2007 09:56 AM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
The fact he flat called you makes me think hes playing a pair of 3's - 8's and sees the turn as a safe card. He could be playing 56 suited.. anyway, this really looks like a bluff on villains part and i expect after you raised, he folded.

jj12 11-21-2007 09:58 AM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
another thing is that since I am playing 24/19. It is v easy for me to have a 9 and he shouldn't be expecting a bluff here.

Jinx 11-21-2007 10:30 AM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
why can't he have a 9? I'd much rather float if you think he's fos

jj12 11-21-2007 10:41 AM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
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why can't he have a 9? I'd much rather float if you think he's fos

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how many 9's are in 16/10's range? How many mid PP?

Fletcher19 11-21-2007 10:54 AM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
i like it

whorasaurus 11-21-2007 10:57 AM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
wp

Putin 11-21-2007 10:59 AM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
wow this hand troubles me a lot..have to think about it...

Melchiades 11-21-2007 11:26 AM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
I like it. He is weak here a lot.

fees 11-21-2007 11:40 AM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
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I like it. He is weak here a lot.

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jinx if he bets river do you shove, and if he checks how much do you bet (assuming brick city)

donkeykong2 11-21-2007 08:39 PM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
looks good

spicybucknuts 11-21-2007 09:20 PM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
I think this is pretty decent because even when you are called you've almost always got 15 outs. With that said, I'm curious as to whether you would be willing to raise in this spot w/ AA or KK, as opposed to a full house or a 9. If that's not the case, and most players will exercise pot control wth these types of hands, the raise probably seems a bit fishy to the donkbettor. Still, i think he folds a mid PP enough to make this a pretty strong play.

jj12 11-21-2007 09:23 PM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
AA or KK is not so big of the range as A9o,98o,T9o.

Jinx 11-21-2007 10:20 PM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
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I like it. He is weak here a lot.

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jinx if he bets river do you shove, and if he checks how much do you bet (assuming brick city)

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no, like 3/4 pot.

spino1i 11-21-2007 10:45 PM

Re: bluff vs thinking reg 1000 NL.
 
I see this as a great opportunity for him to bet here with a 9, with intent of pushing on any form of raise. I dont know if this is the best spot for you to bluff. He has a 9 here great bet on his part. Id prolly just fold.

WelshChip 11-21-2007 10:48 PM

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I see this as a great opportunity for him to bet here with a 9, with intent of pushing on any form of raise. I dont know if this is the best spot for you to bluff. He has a 9 here great bet on his part. Id prolly just fold.

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given location, no doubt


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