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Kurn, son of Mogh 09-06-2007 04:59 PM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
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I usually buy in for 25 BB and reload somewhere between 15 and 20 BB. I want enough in front of me that I can cap every round if I see fit. My local room has a five-bet cap, but four is pretty much universal online.

The score in question was about $4000 at $30/60 stud/8 in 2002. About half of that was won heads-up against an extremely terrible player between about 7 am and 10 am after everyone else went home.

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As an aside, you know that Mike Matusow has offered to stake anyone willing to play Hellmuth HU at Stud/8. I've always wanted to run into them at a tournament and see if he was serious. You'd be an even better choice for the Mouth to stake. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Taso 09-06-2007 07:11 PM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
thanks for the explanation rusty.

I just trippled up in my nl hold 'em game, so I'm going to try out a cheap ($2) stud SNG. It seems as if no one wants to play though, just me and another guy sitting here waiting for 6 more players.

Anyone reading this sees "Tasocles" sitting waiting for a stud SNG, join in :P

Andy B 09-06-2007 08:52 PM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
Actually, I think I've played stud/8 heads-up four times, with that as my only win. I do like my chances against Hellmuth in a heads-up cash game, but I would definitely need the ol' iPod.

Taso 09-06-2007 09:08 PM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
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thanks for the explanation rusty.

I just trippled up in my nl hold 'em game, so I'm going to try out a cheap ($2) stud SNG. It seems as if no one wants to play though, just me and another guy sitting here waiting for 6 more players.

Anyone reading this sees "Tasocles" sitting waiting for a stud SNG, join in :P

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I won [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Beginners luck I suppose. Although I think the real reason I won was because when we got down to 3 handed, I had picked up on these two players playing kind of scared, trying to move up in the money maybe, and I exploited that - didn't have much to do with actual knowledge of the stud hi lo, but more to do with knowledge of poker in general. And while I hardly ever, ever, play nl hold 'em tournaments, I do know how to, and applied similar theories to this sit and go.

In any case, my first time playing with money and I got first place - I'm happy with it. It was long though, took maybe an hour and a half...

Edit: I'm going for round 2, so again, if any of you want to come slumming and play a $2 sit and go, find TASOCLES on ftp.

Taso 09-07-2007 05:32 AM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
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Edit: I'm going for round 2, so again, if any of you want to come slumming and play a $2 sit and go, find TASOCLES on ftp.

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Came in 2nd my second go around. I think because the stakes are so low, generally I'm playing against people who have no idea what they are doing at all. Which is great for making money (albeit a miniscule amount) but not so great for learning.

Once I build up a bit I'm going to give cash game stud hi lo a shot. I'm really not a tournament player at all, been playing cash games regularly for around 2 years now live, and just started playing online this summer, did cash games, went bust with bad bankroll management, and now I'm trying to build it up with sit and gos.

Once again going to remind you all, if you see Tasocles, come play with me and give me some tips :P

Ray Zee 09-08-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
learning lots of games makes you well rounded and a better all game player. stud/8 is a game when played against much weaker players nets you lots of easy money.
plus when learning it is plenty of fun. and having fun at poker is good. practice reading hands as thats the key to winning in poker. good luck.

Paul77 09-10-2007 01:26 PM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
I wrote a book for low-stakes stud 8 players, "How to Beat Seven Card Stud Eight-or-Better at the Lower Limits." It's an e-book; it was all set to be published but that fell through with the UIGA last fall. But stud 8 thrives online, and it's a great game. You can get the book at booklocker.com, ebookmall.com, or you can drop me a line and I'll send you a copy. I sent out a few copies to the folks on this forum, so am happy to send you one for free. It's about 250 pages, and includes handy odds tables prepared by Dr. Paul Dreyer of the RAND institute to help you discern if that low is really worth going for or not.

Good luck on the felt - say hi on Stars, I'm Parrothead77.

Take er easy,
Paul

MayfairClubGuy 09-19-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
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I usually buy in for 25 BB and reload somewhere between 15 and 20 BB. I want enough in front of me that I can cap every round if I see fit. My local room has a five-bet cap, but four is pretty much universal online.

The score in question was about $4000 at $30/60 stud/8 in 2002. About half of that was won heads-up against an extremely terrible player between about 7 am and 10 am after everyone else went home.

[/ QUOTE ]

As an aside, you know that Mike Matusow has offered to stake anyone willing to play Hellmuth HU at Stud/8. I've always wanted to run into them at a tournament and see if he was serious. You'd be an even better choice for the Mouth to stake. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Matusow will stake someone ?? Really ?? Hell, in 1990 I was tearing up the WSOP stud 8/better satellites. Beat Hellmuth 3 satellites running until he threw a chair at me.

I am VERY game for this.
I only wish I could believe it was true.

2461Badugi 09-19-2007 08:49 PM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
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Matusow will stake someone ?? Really ?? Hell, in 1990 I was tearing up the WSOP stud 8/better satellites. Beat Hellmuth 3 satellites running until he threw a chair at me.

I am VERY game for this.
I only wish I could believe it was true.

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Note that Mike has no money.

Andy B 09-19-2007 11:51 PM

Re: Learning stud hi lo
 
That is a bit of a drawback if you're in the staking business.

A year or so ago, I was out having pizza with a group of non-poker-playing friends. There were several TVs in the joint, and a few of them were showing a poker tournament. The sound was off, but pretty much every time I looked up, Matusow was running at the mouth while paying off the nuts. One of my friends remarked that Matusow has mannerisms very similar to his own.

Bruce has Tourette's syndrome.


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