NL 400: For some reason I decide to play weird....
 

Villain is 18/6/2, atsb 20%. Haven't played with him much but he seems unremarkable.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $447.75
BB: $456.50
Hero (UTG): $398.00
UTG+1: $150.00
MP1: $597.80
MP2: $393.00
CO: $577.60
BTN: $681.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
Hero calls $4.00, 4 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $18.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $14.00

Flop: ($42) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $32.00</font>, Hero?

Call or raise?

If you call, what is plan for turn?

If you raise, how much? Plan for turn?

Re: NL 400: For some reason I decide to play weird....
 

Raise to like 88, get it in. Your kickin the crap out of his 'raise limper from button and fire standard c-bet' range.

Re: NL 400: For some reason I decide to play weird....
 

First, I don't like the limp, but maybe that's just me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Then when he raises -if- you limped, I like a healthy reraise. But moving on...

Raise. 2/3 pot bet is a typical cont. bet in this spot, or he could have KQ, flush draw, etc. All a call does is say, wow, am I ahead in the hand or not. If you call, what do you do on the turn assuming a blank? How about a diamond? I like gathering info and taking the lead in the hand. Throw in a healthy reraise here. He'll tell you right away how strong he is. Being a 6, mostly likely on AA, AK, or 1010-QQ. Maybe KQ on button, but a raise will let you know. Amount? Almost doesn't matter, just not a mini-reraise.

Re: NL 400: For some reason I decide to play weird....
 

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I like gathering info and taking the lead in the hand. Throw in a healthy reraise here. He'll tell you right away how strong he is.

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A raise here is not "for information." It is for straight value, pure and simple.

I'd raise to like $100 and call a shove.

Re: NL 400: For some reason I decide to play weird....
 

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First, I don't like the limp, but maybe that's just me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Then when he raises -if- you limped, I like a healthy reraise. But moving on...


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I would have limp/rr if there a raise and any other callers but since it came down to HU I thought going for deception would be more +ev.

Re: NL 400: For some reason I decide to play weird....
 

raising is so gross once you've gotten to this spot... you are very rarely ahead when the money goes in here, especially considering the guy is somewhat tight/passive

Re: NL 400: For some reason I decide to play weird....
 

I guess you limped as a slow play so go with the plan and raise him big, really hate your limp though. if you limp/raise that would be one think but limp call is only good when you are playing vs donkeys and calling stations in lp

Re: NL 400: For some reason I decide to play weird....
 

Hmm, I missed villain's stats for some reason.

18/6 does seem pretty passive. He probably isn't raising many hands that could semi-bluff the flop. With that I change me vote to "call."

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raising is so gross once you've gotten to this spot... you are very rarely ahead when the money goes in here, especially considering the guy is somewhat tight/passive

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But since he is passive I think he will often just overlimp 44 and maybe 99 too. There aren't any other hands to worry about on this board, and you never know - he might get frisky with a FD or KQ...

Anyway if you think calling is best what is the plan for the turn?

Re: NL 400: For some reason I decide to play weird....
 

raise $150
push any non-diamond turn


I would've donked the flop