NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

Still learning cash games and making horrible plays like this every session.... I should have a pretty TAG image but have not been at the table that long.... villain seems standard and has done nothing out of line.

What is the optimal line here... 3bet/fold flop??? Fold turn?? I was planning on folding the river to another large bet but the 4 giving me aces up suckered me into making another horrible call on the end.

Looking back I think my worst play here is on the flop... the river play has to be pretty bad too though.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($103.65)
CO ($58.20)
Hero ($105)
SB ($115.40)
BB ($179.50)
UTG ($76.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($7) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $13</font>, Hero calls $8.50.

Turn: ($33) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $22</font>, Hero calls $22.

River: ($77) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

Final Pot: $177

Re: NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

raise to 4 preflop... maybe 3bet on the flop, otherwise ur just calling down w/ no idea where ur at

Re: NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

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raise to 4 preflop... maybe 3bet on the flop, otherwise ur just calling down w/ no idea where ur at

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i think a call down here is fine, the river 4 def. helps you

Re: NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

if ur learning cash games why dont u start at 25 or 50NL?

Re: NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

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raise to 4 preflop... maybe 3bet on the flop, otherwise ur just calling down w/ no idea where ur at

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i think a call down here is fine, the river 4 def. helps you

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Re: NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

This looks good.

Re: NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

Just because you (presumably) lost doesn't make your play bad. This guy is showing a lot of aggression, but he can't know what you have. He could have been repopping what he saw as a continuation bet and then paired the queen. Who knows. In any event, with the presence of draws you probably should be more aggressive with the aces.

Re: NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

will he 3 barrel ever?

Re: NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

yeah i dont see what you beat on the river, the turn might even be a fold if he hasn't got out of line (despite being a perfect bluffing card for draws)

Re: NL100: Butchering aces on every street
 

shove turn

shove river as played.