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MatteyA28 11-29-2007 01:22 PM

NL 50- TPTK vs turn jam
 
Villain is 30/17/3 over 50 hands. I wasnt catching cards so playing tighter than normal at the table, around 15/13. Unsure if villain would notice.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $65.80
MP: $55.25
Hero (CO): $54.75
BTN: $46.50
SB: $53.45
BB: $22.05

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2.50</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $2.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($5.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($33.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $33</font>, Hero?

The Reese 11-29-2007 01:27 PM

Re: NL 50- TPTK vs turn jam
 
Thats a tough spot but I let it go. What part of his range with that line are you ahead of? I insta muck with no crazy LAG read on this villain. You can reload and find a better spot.

TheWorstPlayer 11-29-2007 05:02 PM

Re: NL 50- TPTK vs turn jam
 
Fold. I'd usually fold on the flop, too.

bsball8806 11-29-2007 05:03 PM

Re: NL 50- TPTK vs turn jam
 
easy fold. We're ahead of hardly any of his range.

Nemesis69 11-29-2007 05:06 PM

Re: NL 50- TPTK vs turn jam
 
Shouldn't we be 3betting pf?

TheWorstPlayer 11-29-2007 05:25 PM

Re: NL 50- TPTK vs turn jam
 
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Shouldn't we be 3betting pf?

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i wouldnt 3b an utg raiser. i actually think it's closer to a fold.

Spurious 11-29-2007 06:00 PM

Re: NL 50- TPTK vs turn jam
 
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Shouldn't we be 3betting pf?

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i wouldnt 3b an utg raiser. i actually think it's closer to a fold.

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i think we should either raise or fold, calling sucks with AQ, since we give others the opportunity to come in for a good price
and often enough the UTG raiser folds and we win the pot uncontested

ceavou22 11-29-2007 06:04 PM

Re: NL 50- TPTK vs turn jam
 
With these stats villain will be opening wide enough even UTG for AQ to be ahead of his range so 3betting is good right?

OP is villain by any chance k1nGNiLLe?

TheWorstPlayer 11-30-2007 11:08 AM

Re: NL 50- TPTK vs turn jam
 
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With these stats villain will be opening wide enough even UTG for AQ to be ahead of his range so 3betting is good right?

OP is villain by any chance k1nGNiLLe?

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Just because you're ahead of his range doesn't mean that reraising is the most profitable line. In position, your first thought should almost always be to call preflop and on the flop. Your positional advantage gets magnified every decision your opponent has to make. If you are raising, then you let him get all-in early which negates your edge. And any fold equity that you have preflop, you'll also have on the flop and on the turn. No need to rush things. And no reason to fear other people 'coming in'. They will be in worse position than you are and they will have worse hands. That is very profitable for you.


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