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kenny tran couldn't even use a mouse

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he uses them to hit and run people all the time.

funny that his main criticism is that they can't lay down a hand.

i'm sure that for a live, 9 handed game, he might be correct, though i suspect some of those stars 25/50 regs could have a shot. This doesn't mean so much though, if you were discussing 6max online games, the top 20 would be all online players

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David, ask Kenny who he thinks the top 20 no limit holdem cash game players are in the world.

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If he's not considering Patrik Antonius to be product of online poker, he clearly doesn't even know what he's talking about. PA made his name and bankroll online.

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That's right. I have been hearing this "PA was originally a live player" argument a lot lately (even from Durrr on Pokerroad Radio). Yeah, he played 100 euro PLO at http://www.grandcasinohelsinki.fi/ before his i_knockout_u days, but to claim he's not an online player is beyond rediculous.

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David, ask Kenny who he thinks the top 20 no limit holdem cash game players are in the world.

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kennytran v. aba HU 4rollz live

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lol @ kenny tran saying people can't lay down a hand.

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David, ask Kenny who he thinks the top 20 no limit holdem cash game players are in the world.

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This would make a better thread.

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It is a commonly known fact that live players almost always say internet players suck, and internet players almost always say live players suck.

One of the few exceptions I can think of is Lee Salem, who one day was talking with me about how a year or two ago he used to see young "internet kids" jumping into his big games and he'd get excited about it and think it's the best thing ever. Now, his view is most of them play much better than he does and they aren't at all good for the game.

Also related to that discussion, he said that David Benyamine was telling him how the big games online were the best thing ever and he didn't think he'd ever want to step foot into a casino again for live cash games. As of a few days ago, how is DB doing with that whole internet poker thing?

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If he's not considering Patrik Antonius to be product of online poker, he clearly doesn't even know what he's talking about. PA made his name and bankroll online.

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No. That is a side issue. He has certain people in mind. He knew that some people would consider Patrik an internet player so he just wanted to make clear that for the purposes of this discussion he didn't. But that doesn't necessarily mean that he would put him in the top twenty either.

Also, when he said, they can't lay down a hand, he meant in live games where he considered it a mistake. He told me about a hand where his well known internet opponent could have saved tens of thousands of dolllars if he would have made what Kenny considered the obvious play of folding two kings preflop. I guess that fold is never made in internet games.

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If there are specific players who you are curious as to where he ranks them, you can ask me and I'll ask him.

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Brian Townsend LDO
Ask him if he knows who Tom Dwan is.