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200 NL - Some Hands
Hand 1 - Villain is 45.5/27.7 over 90 hands
Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter MP: $258 CO: $226.10 BTN: $32 SB: $111.50 ASPoker8 (BB): $467.55 UTG: $180.75 UTG+1: $223.10 Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Thttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif dealt to ASPoker8 (BB) 5 folds, SB calls $1, <font color="red">ASPoker8 raises to $8</font>, SB calls $6 Flop: ($16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 4http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">ASPoker8 bets $12</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">ASPoker8 ?</font> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hand 2 - Villain is 19/2 over 40 hands Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter MP1: $401.70 MP2: $147.85 CO: $97.35 BTN: $218.25 SB: $201.60 BB: $63 UTG: $180.25 UTG+1: $206.40 ASPoker8 (UTG+2): $221.95 Pre-Flop: 8http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif dealt to ASPoker8 (UTG+2) 2 folds, <font color="red">ASPoker8 raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $8, 3 folds Flop: ($19) 7http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players) <font color="red">ASPoker8 bets $14</font>, CO calls $14 Turn: ($47) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) ASPoker8 checks, <font color="red">CO bets $10</font>, <font color="red">ASPoker8 ?</font> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hand 3 - Villain is 2+2'er pterodactyl6 who is 14/10/2.5 Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter BB: $91.45 UTG: $79.65 UTG+1: $323.45 ASPoker8 (MP1): $200 MP2: $204.65 CO: $217.05 BTN: $201.65 SB: $270.65 Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif dealt to ASPoker8 (MP1) 2 folds, <font color="red">ASPoker8 raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $8, 2 folds Flop: ($19) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">ASPoker8 bets $14</font>, BTN calls $14 Turn: ($47) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) ASPoker8 checks, BTN checks River: ($47) Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players) <font color="red">ASPoker8 bets $32</font> |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
HAND #1
That is a short stack that should either push or fold (if competent). and a 45/27 is limping w/ such a wide variety of junk...but it is most likely suited junk. could be a pair + FD, weird OESD, or smaller overpair than you. If this is a competent/good short stack (i.e. understands the power of fold equity), then I would fold to the min raise because that suggests a monster & a good shorty would push w/ a draw for fold equity. HAND #2 - Clear call w/ an OESD + a pair on that board. the outs for your set may not be clean if you're worried abt villan having JJ (or worried abt an overpair since his 3bet calling range is probably wafer thin), but the outs for the OESD should be good...you've got both 8s so it's unlikely you're up against a made straight that is bigger than yours. plus you're getting almost 6:1 pot odds. easy call. HAND #3 Why check turn w/ a FD on the board? I would have gone to value town on turn (1/2 PSB) & river (2/3 PSB). |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
Hand 1: Call and assess turn. If he bets strong you should probably fold. If he bets fairly weak I like a min-raise. The raise is two fold. If he pushes over it you can fold with ease as you are always beat. He'll also call it often with hands you beat (hence it squeezes some value) and will often call with non-nut hands that you don't beat and check the river to you thus buying showdown at a fraction of the price had you gone into call down mode.
Hand 2 : Bet turn usually for around $30 - folds out some hands that you can't beat (bluff), protects if he has a hand that you are still ahead of and, crucially, puts his float to bed. As played reluct-a-call the $10. Hand 3: I prefer to bet the turn in this hand but if you want to try and induce a call from a lesser hand then this is fine. That said I believe if you are going to sell weakness you should really go to town and check this river to him a fair bit. I think he'll value bet you thin allowing you to a) at least get that value out of him and b) possibly more if he calls a raise out of curiosity at your strange line. |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
Just realized s/s in hand 1. Makes my min-raise suggestion a little pointless probably. Thus if you think he's weak on the turn and committed himself then I'd push - he's crap so he'll call light when that invested.
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Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
Hand #1: Shove. He's an idiot and a half stack. You're way ahead of his range.
Hand #2: Call. You're almost getting direct odds to call here, not to mention all those times you actually have the best hand. Hand #3: Pretty well-played. IMO, he probably has AQ (or the same hand as you). If you think you can three-street value AQ here, bet the turn. |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
hand 1: shove. easy shove w/ those stats
hand 2: call. he's giving it to you for cheap why not take it hand 3: i think you played it well. maybe value bet on turn but i like the pot control |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
Hand 1 - Shove shove shove shove.
Hand 2 - Call, b/c obv if you get there, c/c another dinky bet, c/f otherwise. Hand 3 - nh |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
Hand 1 - Shove
Hand 2 - Call Hand 3 -This is a good turn for us, I probably fire again. |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
1. shove
2. call 3. standard for me |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
1 and 2 seem fairly standard (shove and call)
In H3: -We are c/r'ing the turn, correct? -If the river is an offsuit 2, we are c/r'ing the river, correct? |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
#1: easy shove against loose half-stack.
#2: call. #3: Usually bet turn, but your line is fine too. |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
Hand 1: I'd probably jam this given villain's stats and the drawy board. You'll see 65, 55, flush draw here quite a bit.
Hand 2: Call is good. 5.7:1 odds. Hand 3: Reasonable. Are you planning on folding to large raises? Also, consider checking if you feel villain will bluff his busted draws. |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
If you think ive been floating you a lot then i like c/r on the turn. However, if you think I've been playing starightforward then betting again will probably get more value out of AQ/AJ. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Did I have AQ here? |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
do you think a check on the river with an offsuit 2 would induce a bluff? or a bet by a weaker ace? and even if you c/raise...a bluff obviously won't call, and a weaker ace might not as well.
As played, you can get a weak ace A10/aj/aQ to make a crying call? correct? i dont know if you'd get more value by checkraising the river there. |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
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If you think ive been floating you a lot then i like c/r on the turn. However, if you think I've been playing starightforward then betting again will probably get more value out of AQ/AJ. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Did I have AQ here? [/ QUOTE ] yes and I was so pissed because if the river is a blankish type card I'm going to c/r river and it probably works |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
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do you think a check on the river with an offsuit 2 would induce a bluff? or a bet by a weaker ace? and even if you c/raise...a bluff obviously won't call, and a weaker ace might not as well. As played, you can get a weak ace A10/aj/aQ to make a crying call? correct? i dont know if you'd get more value by checkraising the river there. [/ QUOTE ] Good players are valuebetting AQ/AJ/AT 100% on a blank (2o) river. They should also be betting any random floats or unimproved weak type hands when I check to them after raising pf, cbetting A-hi flop, and shutting down. |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
1. shove
2. call 3. I would probably either fire 3 streets or go for the c/r on the river also. I assume you missed one on the turn right? edit: ok, I see that you did miss a c/r. Thats fine. Are we not c/r the river because we think AJ is a big part of his range or because he isn't going to bet hands worse than AQ because you're calling with Ax and chopping a lot of the time? |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
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1. shove 2. call 3. I would probably either fire 3 streets or go for the c/r on the river also. I assume you missed one on the turn right? edit: ok, I see that you did miss a c/r. Thats fine. Are we not c/r the river because we think AJ is a big part of his range or because he isn't going to bet hands worse than AQ because you're calling with Ax and chopping a lot of the time? [/ QUOTE ] The J is a bad rivercard to c/r because the c/r becomes ineffective since it won't work against hands like AQ anymore [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] |
Re: 200 NL - Some Hands
1.shove
2.call is good, call reasonable river bet 3.played well |
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