Limit tourney raise all in or fold?
 

pretty close to the bubble and i have no idea what to do here since i dont play this gmae alot.

Full Tilt Poker Game #4320544513: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (32194841), Table 14 - 1000/2000 - Limit Omaha H/L - 23:36:44 ET - 2007/11/27
Seat 1: TerminatorY (24,831)
Seat 3: candiace (4,009)
Seat 4: x-tramanly (15,805)
Seat 5: hateace10 (26,304)
Seat 6: Taracas (11,094)
Seat 7: king1111 (2,514)
Seat 9: floppeyone (6,160)
king1111 posts the small blind of 500
floppeyone posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to floppeyone [5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
TerminatorY folds
candiace folds
x-tramanly folds
hateace10 folds
Taracas folds
king1111 raises to 2,000
floppeyone has 15 seconds left to act
floppeyone folds
Uncalled bet of 1,000 returned to king1111
king1111 mucks
king1111 wins the pot (2,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,000 | Rake 0
Seat 1: TerminatorY didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: candiace didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: x-tramanly didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: hateace10 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Taracas (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: king1111 (small blind) collected (2,000), mucked
Seat 9: floppeyone (big blind) folded before the Flop

Re: Limit tourney raise all in or fold?
 

i dont know how to get the converter to convert htis.

Re: Limit tourney raise all in or fold?
 

Without further information on the raiser, this is a pretty lousy hand. See if you can get a suited ace wheel in the next round and push those instead.

If the raiser is a jackass, push.

Re: Limit tourney raise all in or fold?
 

I imagine hes doing this with any cards since he can damage me and hes so low, but is a call even +ev agasint a random hand?

Re: Limit tourney raise all in or fold?
 

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i dont know how to get the converter to convert htis.

[/ QUOTE ]Hi sharkscopeaholic - Me neither. I simply type the name of each suit and put square brackets around it.

Regarding what to do, you have a trashy starting hand. If you were not in the big blind, I'd say either fold it or try the bully/bluff tactic.

My experience is the bully/bluff tactic works a lot better in Texas hold 'em, no-limit, or pot-limit games than in fixed-limit Omaha-8.

Thus, except that you hate to be bullied by the small blind when you post the bif blind, I'd meekly fold that trash starting hand and wait for a better one.

It's harder to decide when you have posted the big blind and the small blind is possibly trying to steal.

But Small Blind only has roughly half a small bet left. If you re-raise, he'll go all-in and you'll be risking 1.5 small bets to possibly win 3.5 small bets if you scoop, or to save your big blind (1 small bet) if you split. In a ring game, I'd call with your hand in this situation.

In a tournament, I think your best course of action is to fold.

Buzz

Re: Limit tourney raise all in or fold?
 

Ok, so this is a clear fold then, the reason im asking is becuase he only has 2.5 small blinds and in hold em tournies your cards usually dont matter in a spot like this. Theres no O8B converters?

Re: Limit tourney raise all in or fold?
 

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Ok, so this is a clear fold then,

[/ QUOTE ]Hi sharkscopeaholic - I wrote my post too hastily and then edited. You replied while I was editing.

I would not say "this is a clear fold," but I would say "this is a fold."
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the reason im asking is becuase he only has 2.5 small blinds and in hold em tournies your cards usually dont matter in a spot like this.

[/ QUOTE ]Hands run closer together in Omaha-8 than Texas hold 'em. I haven't run a simulation, but I'd guess off the top of my head that you probably have favorable odds to play against the range of hands he's probably raising with. As I wrote, this would be an easy call for me in a ring game. But in a tournament, I'm still leaning towards saving my chips for a move of my own.

Buzz

Re: Limit tourney raise all in or fold?
 

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Ok, so this is a clear fold then, the reason im asking is becuase he only has 2.5 small blinds and in hold em tournies your cards usually dont matter in a spot like this. Theres no O8B converters?

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there are but non of them seems to work with ftp.