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Everyone has five dollars

Full ring, I raise UTG+1 to 20 cents with 55 (is this a leak?)
6 people call

flop is 569 rainbow
I bet, next guy raises, next guy goes all in for 5, next guy calls, back to me??

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ur beat dude just throw it away cant lose what you dont put in the middle

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dude u got a pocket pair u cant fold this

bet ull see whiffed overs lots here

stack em fools

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I lold

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fold everything but 78

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AJ,

Put them on a range of hands

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AJ,

Put them on a range of hands

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huh?

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fold everything but 78

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lol there is no 78 on that board
u aint got no pair fish

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AJ,

Put them on a range of hands

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huh?

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CTODF

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Everyone has five dollars


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This is my favorite part because nobody at 5NL sits for $5.

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I'm just worried if I start folding sets here ppl will pick up on it and exploit me like JonBenet Ramsey

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fold everything but 78

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i dont know man. what are the odds that 87 is holding up here? someone else might even have 87 also which means even if a miracle happens and he holds up, some other guy gets half his money

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i dont know man. what are the odds that 87 is holding up here? someone else might even have 87 also which means even if a miracle happens and he holds up, some other guy gets half his money

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Maybe if we have 87s and it comes with a BD flush draw?!?

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i dont know man. what are the odds that 87 is holding up here? someone else might even have 87 also which means even if a miracle happens and he holds up, some other guy gets half his money

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Yeah were basically drawing dead to runner runner blank and playing for half the money but losing all of it when we lose which we will a lot

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I'm just worried if I start folding sets here ppl will pick up on it and exploit me like JonBenet Ramsey

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just mix up ur play and push here when u put some1 on a bottom set an push pretending u got a better 1


mix it up a bit nit

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i dont know man. what are the odds that 87 is holding up here? someone else might even have 87 also which means even if a miracle happens and he holds up, some other guy gets half his money

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Maybe if we have 87s and it comes with a BD flush draw?!?

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what if someone has our bd flush draw dominated?!

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In mathematics of poker bill chen says you have to weigh ranges and if 50% or more you can go all in because then you can bluff balance and get maximized value on the hands

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what if someone has our bd flush draw dominated?!

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Totally true. I need to fold and not lose any more here.

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Mods feel free to lock, I think Im just being results oriented because im down 4000 this week because of coolers like this

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In mathematics of poker bill chen says you have to weigh ranges and if 50% or more you can go all in because then you can bluff balance and get maximized value on the hands

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umm yeah whatever but in Sklansky's epic Theory of Poker he talks about game theory and says that if they know that you're folding bottom set then you can't get maximized value bets on your hands because you can't bluff balance on that board and get maximized value because they know you're folding bottom set and you'll just get run over. and yeah i think i trust sklansky over bill chen sry

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Mods feel free to lock, I think Im just being results oriented because im down 4000 this week because of coolers like this

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i wonder why... you keep reading that bill chen... gl

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chens way better than sklankey

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chens way better than sklankey

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ctodf

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oh and josh dont worry im still in the green for the year for more than your family's net worth

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AJ if any of these people in these hands have below a 70%vp i might have to toss it in fear of someone having 92o and making that backdoor river boat vs me

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Everyone has five dollars

Full ring, I raise UTG+1 to 20 cents with 55 (is this a leak?)
6 people call

flop is 569 rainbow
I bet, next guy raises, next guy goes all in for 5, next guy calls, back to me??

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I think regular raises in EP with baby pairs is a leak at full ring, particularly if the guys behind you are either very good or very bad. The good ones will float your cb's and hammer you on the turn and river with position on you. The bad ones will call any amount of bluffing and cb's so if you don't flop a set, you'll end up in a pretty big pot showing down a pair of 5s to passive pete's pair of tens on a K8229 board.

As played, villains could have a straight, 2-pair, higher set, or overpair. You can probably fold since you can't even be sure a paired board will help you, since a 2-pair hand might fill up higher than you.

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lol at all the trolling

Albert - are you levelling them?

Now all we need is for Parlay Slow to "Bump. Results." this thread after 2 weeks or so.