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Nakama 11-02-2007 01:21 PM

AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
Here we are. Something like 70 players left in the 20/180. Sometimes I find myself very uncomfortable w/ some spots like this one.

Besides this specific hand, what would u guys do here w/ Hands like: ATs, KQs, 88, 77? And why?

The most difficult spot for me in this position and this stack is that if u raise and got called playing OOP, ur risking aprox. 1/3 of ur stack on the PF raise plus the Cbet. The limp and the fold seems pretty weak imo. So what do u guys do w/ these kind of hands in this situation? In this case i still have 5 ppl to act behind me....

(Sorry guys, but i just cant use the converter. When upload the result doesnt show the UTG and UTG+1 actions, and I put on the 2+2 format.. i dont know what happens)

PokerStars Game #12982888689: Tournament #65873033, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/11/01 - 20:01:40 (ET)
Table '65873033 16' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: priamos_dk (4175 in chips)
Seat 2: Anjouz (3510 in chips)
Seat 3: Sinnead (5230 in chips)
Seat 5: rpesch (8867 in chips)
Seat 6: greetje (5440 in chips)
Seat 7: jaams (3435 in chips)
Seat 8: NAKAMATOR (2760 in chips)
Seat 9: Sil44 (2450 in chips)
Sinnead: posts small blind 100
rpesch: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NAKAMATOR J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
greetje: folds
jaams: folds
NAKAMATOR:????

Crash0veride 11-02-2007 03:39 PM

Re: AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
table dynamic is the most important thing here. I'd have to fold in a lose table, raise in a tight table. I don't think a limp is horrible here but it's not something I try

JokerArmy 11-02-2007 05:53 PM

Re: AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
The closer I get to the button the more I shove...although I still probably shove in your spot too...depends on the table a bit...limping is gross...raise to 3x facing a re-pop is even worse...raise to 3x, getting called by position, I'd shove most flops....All in all Shove > Fold followed by all other options.

- JA

mashxx 11-02-2007 08:13 PM

Re: AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
Lol, hi buddy. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I didn't know I could find you here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] It depends on how bad or loose are players behind you, if very then I fold it all day, if not I raise 625.

tomek322 11-02-2007 08:21 PM

Re: AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
why are we scared of loose players?

raise a loose table and stack off against a loose player.

Raise a tight table and fold to a shove.

SengioKang 11-03-2007 01:13 AM

Re: AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
M is 9... you have blinds coming up too....

this is a clear all in. you're first in and they're gonna need a big hand to call. you have enough chips to severely cripple those behind you... use them to your advantage

MorsifiedZombie 11-03-2007 01:26 AM

Re: AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
Shoving here is your best option.

mashxx 11-03-2007 05:25 AM

Re: AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
[ QUOTE ]
why are we scared of loose players?

raise a loose table and stack off against a loose player.

Raise a tight table and fold to a shove.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sigh, I didn't notice you're so short, that changes much. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I aggre with guy above.

Nakama 11-03-2007 05:44 PM

Re: AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
Oh, hi guys.. sorry for not reply b4 and thx a lot for the thoughts...

Actually, what happened in this hand is that I shoved and everybody folded... Nothing special but these spots definetely makes me uncomfortable to play...

Thx a lot guys.. And mash, now u know how to find me here buddy.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] But u probably going to find me a lot during the week playing the 20/180. Im gonna play a lot of them this month and see what happens, since FTP is not my friend anymore... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

see u at the tables guys!

chasehas 11-03-2007 07:09 PM

Re: AJs, MP1, 13bbs left
 
IF these spots make you uncomfortable, play some turbo sng's. You'll get a lot of practice.


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