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icewizard008 11-20-2007 03:44 AM

Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
Did I play this correctly? Or should I have folded and let the short stack eventually go all in? BB seemed fairly tight before, but since he has so many chips he might be willing to take a coin flip to knock me out. Top 3 pay in the SNG.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t1820)
Button (t3055)
Hero (t2365)
BB (t6260)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t2340

LayZ 11-20-2007 04:22 AM

Re: Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
Of course you played it right, the shortie only has a bit less than you. He doubles through and then you are short - folding AKs doesn't seem so smart then does it?

RexWoo 11-20-2007 08:56 AM

Re: Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
Welcome.

this is a very standard push. You should also make with many hands &lt; AKs

holy32 11-20-2007 10:23 AM

Re: Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
Yeah, pushing fairly wide here, if not any2. Get the Sngwiz trial.

pokerbasti 11-20-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
i fold this, i also fold AA everytime and KK also

Shortcorner 11-20-2007 11:30 AM

Re: Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
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i fold this, i also fold AA everytime and KK also

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Why are you so angry?

holy32 11-20-2007 11:32 AM

Re: Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
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i fold this, i also fold AA everytime and KK also

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Careful, people might take this seriously...

Rek 11-20-2007 11:58 AM

Re: Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
Fold everything apart from 72o - they won't be expecting that

Takeover_inc 11-20-2007 01:08 PM

Re: Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
happy times are when you wake up with a monster on the bubble. Shove it all day long.

wiggs73 11-20-2007 01:41 PM

Re: Ace-king in Bubble (3rd in chips)
 
Icewizard,

You should really buy an ICM tool or learn how to do the equations by hand. This push is +EV no matter what range the BB calls with. If he calls 100% of the time, it's +.6%. If he calls 1% of the time, it's +3.4%. It's +EV with everything in between as well. Considering this, the hand doesn't merit much discussion.

The only possible point worth considering when dealing with unexploitable pushes is whether possible future equity gained by a short stack busting outweighs the immediate equity you gain by shoving. Being that even when BB calls 100% of the time, you gain quite a lot of equity, this is almost surely not the case here. Also note how close the 3 short stacks are in terms of stack size. If the short stack doubles once, he's the new second stack. This is by no means a scenario where you can assume someone besides yourself will bust soon.

I'm locking the thread since this is simply a must-make push. Try not to be results oriented when the BB calls with TJs and busts you. That doesn't make it a bad push.


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