QQ in blind steal situation
 

This hand is rather similar to the hand posted by OneOuter, but I thought I would ask for opinions nonetheless.

Online 5-10...Villain can be pretty sLAGgy, at least against me. Indeed, in a prior blind steal hand on another table (when he was unknown to me), with me the stealer and him the defender, on a board of 23438 [rainbow], after he just called PF, he then bet the flop (I called), he checkraised the turn (I called), and then he bet the river--and we both held A2.

On this current hand, I'm dealt black queens, and openraise on the button. The SB folds, and Villain calls.

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
He checks, I bet, he calls.

Turn: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
He checks, I bet, he checkraises, I call.

River: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
He bets, I call.

Does anyone three-bet the turn or raise the river?

Re: QQ in blind steal situation
 

i would likely 3bet the turn.

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i would likely 3bet the turn.

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given read, absolutely

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i would likely 3bet the turn.

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...and call down if 4-bet?

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yes and yes imo

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You have one of the top hands in your range, so you can 3-bet unexploitably. Given that villain is check-raising light, you should 3-bet MORE hands, not less. 3-bet and call down a 4-bet.

good luck.
Eric

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I'm grunching, and I think I like a turn three bet. Especially given the read. If we just call and raise the river and he's semibluffing we only get three bets. We're crushing his range and that gives us our best chance to get 4 bets out of him.

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i would likely 3bet the turn.

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calling the turn and raising most rivers is better than this, because it allows him more rope when he has pure air.
Also it will look quite fishy to him, so he might rebluff you with zilch or payoff with ace high or king high

Basically we are seeing showdown 100%, and it's gonna be quite expensive for someone (probably him)

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i would likely 3bet the turn.

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calling the turn and raising most rivers is better than this, because it allows him more rope when he has pure air.
Also it will look quite fishy to him, so he might rebluff you with zilch or payoff with ace high or king high

Basically we are seeing showdown 100%, and it's gonna be quite expensive for someone (probably him)

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no it's not because he's semibluffing or valuebluffing a huge portion of the time here.

it's a blind battle, villain/players in general will be prone to getting out of line regardless of what line we use(3bet turn vs. wait for river raise) as long as it's an aggressive line. hammer him and he'll fire back, it likely doesn't matter the manner inwhich you do it.

3betting has the distinct advantage of getting hime to call with UI overs/a draw/dominated pairs immediately and getting a river bet out of a good portion of that range as well. plus a scarecard may come on the river and kill the action. even if he misses his draw he may bluffraise us. 3bet the damn turn.

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You have one of the top hands in your range, so you can 3-bet unexploitably.

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Explain that more please?