JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk
6-handed.
Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and covers. MP is 56/15/1.6(400) with 52% (!) won when saw flop, 42% att to steal blinds, 34% folded BB to steal. MP has 214BB. My read is that he is retarded, floaty and bluffy. BB is also a LAGtard though has more brains. Hero raises to 3.5BB, MP calls, 3 folds, BB calls. Flop T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (11BB) BB checks, Hero bets 8.4BB, MP calls, BB calls. Turn 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (36.2BB) BB checks, Hero checks (I figure they may give up their float with a double barrel and I can let them do some betting), MP bets 72BB, BB folds, Hero...? WTF? Why is he betting so much? If for some reason I call and he shoves a blank river for 130BB for a 440BB pot am I calling? |
Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk
i think i would raise and call a shove. if you are beat, oh well
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Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk
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i think i would raise and call a shove. if you are beat, oh well [/ QUOTE ] you regularly play 400bb pots with this attitude? this is a very marginal spot. given time i think this is a fold but in the heat of battle i may call or raise, im not sure. but it is very very close. actually i like a fold there are better spots to throw about 200bb. |
Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk
Why did you call the turn bet? Unless villain's aggro stats are something like 1/4/1 I don't see how huge overbets mean good news for JJ on boards like this. Yeah, he get weird like this if he picked up a combo draw on the turn but I still don't like calling this OOP, especially when it can wind up all-in for less than a PSB on the river.
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Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk
I'm not saying I called the turn bet. I'm asking hypothetically if I did call what is our plan for the river.
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Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk
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I'm not saying I called the turn bet. I'm asking hypothetically if I did call what is our plan for the river. [/ QUOTE ] In the event that I called the turn in this situation, I'm calling the river. I don't like the idea of villains thinking that waiting until I get almost half of my stack in the middle then trying to bluff me out of the pot is something they should do with any frequency. I would rather pay of his higher overpair or set once than have him try this line as a bluff over and over in the future. |
Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk
aggro donk + overpair is a good combination, even when 2 BI's deep.
you say bluffy, floaty and retarted. surely you beat alot of hands he is going broke with here. there are 3 draws out as well i agree it is a weird spot, but i'm gonna find it hard folding, when you have described him thus. |
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aggro donk + overpair is a good combination, even when 2 BI's deep [/ QUOTE ] i'm shoving |
Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk
-Man! I don't know if there is a hypothetical situation. Either you are shoving the turn, or folding. IMO, calling turn is bad. He is attempting a mad bluff against your aggression, plus his AF is really not that aggressive. I do not see him doing that with air. He does like seeing a lot of cards, though. I believe T9s is in his range. I would fold turn.
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Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk
If he's on complete air wouldn't calling turn and calling river be best? Or do you think he never is on complete air?
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