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loosbastard 10-25-2007 12:30 AM

AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
Villain is Minsk33. I have him at like 24/14 and he's been a royal pain in my ass all session w/ constant 3-bets/floats/etc. I'm running like 30/25, but I haven't done much 3-betting yet. I also haven't 4-bet once...which is why I decided to flat and C/R a lot of flops.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $220.90
SB: $145.30
BB: $96.95
UTG: $18.50
Hero (CO): $114.15

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.50

Flop: ($25.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($25.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, BTN calls $16

River: ($57.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $36.50</font>

Novles 10-25-2007 12:35 AM

Re: AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
looks fine, what's the question?

loosbastard 10-25-2007 12:36 AM

Re: AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
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looks fine, what's the question?

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Sizing I guess...and do you call a shove?

thac 10-25-2007 12:36 AM

Re: AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
Size is okay, and yes, call a shove. You lose to AQ and QQ.

Novles 10-25-2007 12:37 AM

Re: AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
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looks fine, what's the question?

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Sizing I guess...and do you call a shove?

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fine. and obv call shove - folding AA in 3bet pots for 115bb is teh suck.

Minsk 10-25-2007 12:38 AM

Re: AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
4bet pf , as played c/c river, i think..

i donate you river bet just to see what you have -.-

loosbastard 10-25-2007 12:39 AM

Re: AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
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fine. and obv call shove - folding AA in 3bet pots for 115bb is teh suck.

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Yeah this hand sucks (sorry guys)...just needed a little check up.

loosbastard 10-25-2007 12:40 AM

Re: AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
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4bet pf , as played c/c river, i think..

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Yeah, in retrospect, you're probably shoving it in there if I 4-bet. Oh well...just didn't feel right at the time w/ how little I'd been 3/4-betting up to this point.

Minsk 10-25-2007 12:46 AM

Re: AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
and calling a push seems awful. you lose to AQ / QQ / KQ / JQ / 22 / 88 , all of which are possibilities for me.

On the other hand without getting any information throughout the hand i cant know you do not have a queen which is what your betting represented, making it impossible to bluff unless its completely pulled out of my ass

MasterLJ 10-25-2007 12:47 AM

Re: AA: I flat his 3-bet OOP...flop kinda sucks.
 
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looks fine, what's the question?

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Sizing I guess...and do you call a shove?

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fine. and obv call shove - folding AA in 3bet pots for 115bb is teh suck.

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This mentality is stupid and costly and way to rampant on this site in general.

Against the average opponent I like your line (maybe a little bigger bets) and I'm calling shoves on the river vs most opponents but certainly not all.


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