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Woody317 09-04-2007 08:10 AM

Top 2 pair gets shoved on turn
 
Sorry no Hand History.

Playing .05/.10 blinds 6 handed.

Villain's been pretty aggressive. He's the big stack (about $25) after his pocket kings beet my queens a few hands ago. I have just rebought for $10. Is this shove almost always trips or better?

Dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button.

Villain is UTG and limps. All fold to hero who raise to $0.50.
SB and Villain calls.

Flop: (pot $1.55)
K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB and Villain checks, Hero bets $1.26, SB and villain call.

Turn: (pot $5.13)
9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB checks, Villain shoves for $23, hero???

Can this huge shove be weakness?
Advice on all streets also welcome

Spurious 09-04-2007 08:23 AM

Re: Top 2 pair gets shoved on turn
 
Preflop and flop are fine imo.
This is weird. AA and 9x are the only hands you cant beat.
I'd probably call here, and if he got trips make a note on him.
Does he openlimp with suited connectors? T9, 98, A9s are the 3 hands i am concerned about.

Ben K 09-04-2007 08:30 AM

Re: Top 2 pair gets shoved on turn
 
I'd fold and wait for a better spot unless I've seen him bluff shove or he's shoved frequently, i.e a read of some sort other than he's pretty aggressive.

Spurious misses out QJ combos. If he's very passive pre flop then you can't even rule out TT.

AND, you've still got the SB in the hand who could also have a hand that beats you.

The huge shove could be weakness but only of the "I'll slowplay my flopped str8 - ahhh noooo!! the board's paired, quick scare everyone with a monster overbet" type of weakness.

Parvex 09-04-2007 08:37 AM

Re: Top 2 pair gets shoved on turn
 
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AND, you've still got the SB in the hand who could also have a hand that beats you.

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I would be much more inclined to call, if SB was out (but even then I think I could find a fold here). But as he is in, i'm ready to muck my hand.

And I pot flop, on a side note.


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