80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

villian is 60/20/4 only 25 hands. No good reads. Wasnt quite sure whatwas best line on river??

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.40/$0.80
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $162
CO: $53.30
Button: $156.80
SB: $131.75
BB: $100.55

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $0.8</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $10</font>, CO folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($42, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $0.8</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($102.8, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $0.8</font>, Hero ??

Re: 80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

personally, I wimp and just call the river. Villain's range is monsters/draws (that have a minimum of showdown value) and wtf stuff... the last is uncommon enough (like Q7os that calls on river) that I'm just calling. The draws fold and the monsters, of course, reraise you all in.

It's strange, because I'd value bet the river if checked to, and I treat minbets on other streets as if it's a check. But hard experience tells me that a minbet on 3 streets is not worth raising... When called, it's always a better hand.

Man, I wish I knew what was going on in their heads when they do this though.

Re: 80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

villain's range is absolutely anything, I raise for value against this guy all day

Re: 80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

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villain's range is absolutely anything, I raise for value against this guy all day

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weak TP is definitely in the range, I raise. If its weak 2 pair props.

Re: 80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

Guys, theory is fine, and I absolutely 100% agree in theory to raising here -- but damn, I don't think I've ever, ever, ever been good here in practice when I've raised with a 1 pair hand and been called.

Not ever, not once -- just never. Okay, maaaaaybe once.... but it's happened a gazillion times...

Re: 80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

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River: 4 ($102.8, 2 players)
SB bets $0.8, Hero ??

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Wow, that had to make you puke just a bit. After 2 good raises, he does it again? I think you just have to call and then punch yourself in the face when he tables Q4o.

Re: 80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

I would just pretend he checked and value bet.

Re: 80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

Min raise! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: 80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

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Min raise! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Winnah!

Re: 80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??
 

I'd raise here all day vs. a 60 VP$IP. Make it $62. An overpair here vs. this guy's range is probably analogous to a set of fives or something vs. a "normal" player's range.