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might make a smaller river bet (~40?) ... I don't think he's calling $66 here with something you can beat.

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if i was gonna bet i would probably bet alot bigger. the only way a decent TAG is gonna pay you off is if he makes a hero call against a perceived attempt to buy the pot.

i would probably bet $100 ish. he is gonna fold mostly but may call with TT or maybe 99.

JJ is pretty much the worst hand i will value bet here, as if you bet with TT you may get looked up by JJ

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Shove because it looks like a bluff?

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I like it.

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but if he's thinking, he should probably realize that your bet looks vb-ish given the amount.

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Who cares if it looks like a bluff, the only hand that can call that bet is a strong one, shoving is total newb IMO.
I don't think anyone is making a hero call to a shove, tinybet/callshove is way better then shoving.

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i don't even like the bet. anything worse is an ez fold for him if he considers what you're calling the flop and then betting the river with, and he could play a queen like this.

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i don't even like the bet. anything worse is an ez fold for him if he considers what you're calling the flop and then betting the river with, and he could play a queen like this.

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Scratch that, thought Hero raised.

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I like to make it a little bigger. It seems to me that the smaller ones dont get called as often. Might just be my imagination or something. Maybe opponents just think that looks like a 'call me bet' and then fold. I dunno...

I like $85 or $90 better.