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RockyElsom 11-30-2007 01:29 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
Well played. You still have redraws against some stuff, and donks make stupid random bluffs here soooo much.

philipsaurus 11-30-2007 01:54 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
meh, i call.

stackingboxes 11-30-2007 01:56 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
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I really don't understand this.

why don't u just push the flop if u think u'r good.

when the biggest scare card comes, u decide to call a massive bet.

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2d "biggest scare-card"? if he's bluffing and we call this line allows him to hang himself, if he's got worse he can get away from it on the Flop if we shove.

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I guess it wasn't clear, but I meant a diamond, not 2d specifically as being a scare card. do u REALLY think he CR bluffs this flop with air as often as he does with flush draw and sets?

wheelz 11-30-2007 02:39 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
i'm more afraid of AQ than a flush or set

jambon 11-30-2007 02:55 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
looks like a fold to me, sets, AQ, AA, KK, flushes i can all see randomly played like this, we dont beat a whole lot but straight up bluffs, Ad (real unlikely) and maybe worse Qs if hes a real crazy fish, and we have to be good a lot with the overbet

terp 11-30-2007 03:22 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
small c/r + overbet shoves are bluffs a lot

either way you have enough equity against his range. i like

FionnMac 11-30-2007 06:34 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
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nh.

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ty, expand?

FionnMac 11-30-2007 09:59 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
those of you who are saying fold suck, villain was drawing to 2 outs here [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

note to party regs: do not bluff me or you will lose, k thx

docnuclear 11-30-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
I suck....

blankoblanco 11-30-2007 10:06 AM

Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call
 
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those of you who are saying fold suck, villain was drawing to 2 outs here [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

note to party regs: do not bluff me or you will lose, k thx

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so he was in fact bluffing (with a pocker pair i guess)? or did he go crazy with like QJ no diamond (which is obviously still a "bluff", basically, but some fish don't know better)


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