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roggles 11-29-2007 10:42 PM

Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here?
 
A huge problem with my play is that I am bad at putting in aggression with hands that aren't super-strong. Here is a hand against an aggressive opponent, and I wonder if I found the right mix of action here. I have a couple of notes on the opponent, although I doubt they are very helpful:
limps A door in LP with aces
didn't vbet 76 low + AA against high board

7 Card Stud High-Low ($10/$20), Ante $1,50, Bring-In $3 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.90 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls

4th Street - (2.90 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises___raises

5th Street - (5.45 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (9.45 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

River - (11.45 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls

Total pot: (13.45 BB - $269)

ceegee 11-29-2007 10:45 PM

Re: Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here
 
I like it

djk123 11-29-2007 11:29 PM

Re: Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here
 
why not raise 6th as well?

roggles 11-29-2007 11:40 PM

Re: Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here
 
What can he have?

Straight
Made low + pair
Two pair
26 down

I'm not ahead of anything

Raxxmataxx 11-30-2007 12:01 AM

Re: Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here
 
It balances your raises with better made lows and straights.

djk123 11-30-2007 12:04 AM

Re: Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here
 
yea i guess not. i just think that it's highly unlikely he has a straight, so he prob wouldn't reraise us and we cud check behind on riv if we dont improve but bet if we do.

Raxxmataxx 11-30-2007 12:25 AM

Re: Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here
 
[ QUOTE ]
yea i guess not. i just think that it's highly unlikely he has a straight, so he prob wouldn't reraise us and we cud check behind on riv if we dont improve but bet if we do.

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, due to the action on 4th street a straight draw is very improbable for us. In fact, any low is pretty improbable since we then had to hammer 4th with 3 low cards and a T against a likely pair (with or without a 3-low) or a 4-low.

4th locks us pretty hard to exactly big pairs or better. There's no way we have 52 in the hole.

So thinking about it I hate raising 4th, ever with these boards, and don't like raising 6th if we do raise 4th. Especially as he showed an ace it's very hard to imagine us feeling too comfortable with anything but AA and TTT or rolled to start with. I don't think KK in the hole sees that as a prime raising spot very often.

Had we called on 4th I would've been fine raising 6th. As is, we've limited the upper strength of our hand far too much and can't credibly threaten any low very much.

adanthar 11-30-2007 01:38 AM

Re: Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here
 
misread the action...but am I bad if I want to call 4th with the intention of possibly folding if I catch a crappy high card/he catches well on fifth?

blumpkin 11-30-2007 01:54 AM

Re: Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here
 
his 4th st check is tilting me

Andy B 11-30-2007 03:09 AM

Re: Stud8 - (AA)4 , did I put in the appropriate amount of action here
 
I would just call the raise on fourth. Opponent is probably one card away from free-rolling on you. Similarly, I'd just call on fifth. Everything else looks fine.


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