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dray 11-15-2007 04:54 PM

33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
3rd level of FTOPS Main Event Satellite. No real info on these guys, sorry.

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+2: 1,350
MP1: 1,550
Hero (MP2): 1,950
CO: 1,510
BTN: 4,125
SB: 1,930
BB: 1,895
UTG: 4,890
UTG+1: 1,205

Pre-Flop: (75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
UTG calls 50, 3 folds, Hero calls 50, CO folds, BTN calls 50, SB calls 25, BB checks

Flop: (250) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (250) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets 50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to 100</font>

What now?

chrismystero 11-16-2007 09:01 AM

Re: 33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
Fold.

JammyDodga 11-16-2007 09:18 AM

Re: 33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
I think its a fold, you have a maximum of 6 outs, I'm not counting the diamonds, and if someone already has a flush, you only have 3.

Whats more, you aren't closing the action, so you dont know how much you will need to call to see the next card.

yNnOs 11-16-2007 09:20 AM

Re: 33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
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Fold.

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Was going to respond to this when first saw it, but thought it was obvious.

Win.by.TKo 11-16-2007 09:31 AM

Re: 33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
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Whats more, you aren't closing the action, so you dont know how much you will need to call to see the next card.

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I would be tempted to call should it be closing out the action and you know that t100 is all it would cost, as the 4.1 pot odds would make curious.

Without it closing the action, it indeed is an easy fold.

TheFoxNL 11-16-2007 09:33 AM

Re: 33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
obvious fold
to me only a 4d will give you the winning hand wich is also safe to bet
if any other 4 comes out or a different diamond youre unable to say you got the best hand

Pokerfarian 11-16-2007 09:46 AM

Re: 33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
Call because folding has reverse-implied-tilt-odds?
More seriously, fold, your draw isn't great &amp; your not closing the action.

M1cKmAcK 11-16-2007 10:38 AM

Re: 33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
please tell me you folded...

dray 11-16-2007 02:47 PM

Re: 33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
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Whats more, you aren't closing the action, so you dont know how much you will need to call to see the next card.

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I would be tempted to call should it be closing out the action and you know that t100 is all it would cost, as the 4.1 pot odds would make curious.

Without it closing the action, it indeed is an easy fold.

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I just couldn't help myself. The table wasn't overly aggressive so..

Dray calls 100
COOL COWBOY folds
Marco725 calls 100
wdf888 folds
*** RIVER *** [2d Ad 5d 5h] [6c]
Marco725 checks
poundpup3873 checks
Dray checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
poundpup3873 shows [Qh Ts] a pair of Fives
Dray shows [3s 3d] two pair, Fives and Threes
Marco725 mucks
Dray wins the pot (600) with two pair, Fives and Threes
poundpup3873 stands up
The blinds are now 30/60
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 600 | Rake 0
Board: [2d Ad 5d 5h 6c]
Seat 1: DAVEM321 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Columbia30 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Dray showed [3s 3d] and won (600) with two pair, Fives and Threes
Seat 4: coastrider didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: COOL COWBOY (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: Marco725 (small blind) mucked [Jd 3h] - a pair of Fives
Seat 7: wdf888 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: poundpup3873 showed [Qh Ts] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 9: fryman89 didn't bet (folded)

Dunkman 11-16-2007 03:09 PM

Re: 33 with str8 flush draw on flop
 
Yeah you still should have folded.


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